Subject: Re: start question

Author: Robert Hawkes

Date: May 7, 2001, 3:34 PM

Post ID: 1706630627

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I guess I will chime in on the subject. My Ambassador has its own
starting demons and what I found is that after cleaning and checking all

the wiring and connections, taking the starter/selenoid out and giving it

good spray down with contact cleaner and making sure my battery is
completely charged that it sometimes depends on how I am pushing the

button. If I casually hit it then the starter struggles, but if I firmly
press it in the middle it usually starts up with the vigor it should. I

another switch that I keep meaning to swap and try but have not gotten
around to it. I also am contemplating wiring it up to the switch but

how much trouble it is to take hands off of the throttle or clutch to turn
the key if the bike happens to stalls in traffic. Anyone run like this and
have opinions?
Thanks,
Rich


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From: Keith Ruff [SMTP:klru-@webspan.net]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: start question

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Ian,

I am thinking the same way as you since it seems to be an
intermittent
problem. Guess it depends on where the piston stops when it is
shutdown
because it definitely seems to stop turning when the piston is neat
TDC.
The smoke I get is the contact wire heating up if it locks up for
too
long. Thought putting a larger battery with more cca's would solve
this, but it hasn't. Didn't notice any smoke last time as I think
this
new battery didn't have as long a delay turning the engine past TDC
versus the old battery, so maybe I am OK. Seems like lots of folks
have
the same problem, so I'm not sure if it's worth getting a new or
rebuilt
starter, especially since yours was just rebuilt and is doing the
same
thing mine and others loops are doing. FYI, just picked up a
Magnetti
Marelli coil, my OEM is leaking a bit, so it's almost time to change
it
out.

See Ya,

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ


Ian Adkins wrote:

Interesting Keith....especially with you having the larger

battery.

What I am thinking is that the engine stops at near TDC where the
compression is max. More work required to get it over the top but

once

it
does there there is some inertia built up and the battery can

handle the

rotation through the next compression cycle.

Another thought.....maybe the starter solenoid needs to be

excited? I am

no
expert but sometimes when the engine stops rotating and I am still

holding
the starter button I can hear a little high pitched sound. I

wonder what

that is?

Regards....Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Ruff <klru-@webspan.net>
To: Loopfram-@topica.com <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Date: May 6, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: start question

Hey Ian,

I would love to know the answer to this one as I have the EXACT

SAME

PROBLEM! Just what is causing this hangup?? I just installed

that

bigger battery to get more cca's, but it still has that

hesitation like

yours. Only exception is that my starter will smoke if I hold

the

starter button down too long if it is hanging up! Mechanic

figured it

was just not enough juice coming from the old 28 cca battery I

had, but

the 500cca battery does the same, though the hesitation isn't as

long.

Keep me posted on this one!

Thanx!

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ

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