The replacement nuts are made from steel while the good OEM nuts were brass with chrome plating. Brass has a similar expansion rate to alumininum .
This making them less leak/loosening prone. Makes sense.
The collapsing I made reference to was the force imparted not actual collapsing, but the distortion is often permanent and it does limit the effectivness of the nut.
If you are distorting something, something is wrong or you are doing it wrong. But hey, it's your bike do as you like.
Zerhackermann . wrote:
Greg, the two are made from different metals. The aluminum expands at a different amount/rate than the nut. So I do it once cold and then again hot (gas stop). After a couple gas stops, even with antiseize, there is not tightening to do. This summer after 2000 miles I checked again, no loosening, tight as ever. And on these parts (heads and nuts) the threads were not in the best of shape. I do use the frame rail clamps as well though. And I seriously doubt a hook wrench is gonna collapse anything. unless there were other problems present already.
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I'm interested in the tools, too.
A question about the tighten-while-hot method:
If the metal expands when it gets hot, wouldn't the nut grow in diameter at the same time the circumference of the threaded area of the port shrinks, making the whole sitch worse?
I've always tightened cold for that reason, but maybe my understanding of what's happening is flawed?
Greg Field
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Hi Gary...I'd be interested in both tools.....
I know it's probably been mentioned but it's VERY important to use the frame/exhaust clamps to keep the threads from wearing out.....
Mike www.classicguzzi.com
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From what it sounds like everyone is using maybe it is time I make
a
batch of the proper dog type spanners. The "hook type are a bit
better
than the Chanellock/pipe wrench/hammer chisel hackersaw etc. The
dog
type spanner uses 2 flat dog keys 180 degrees apart to give a more tangental drive without crushing the nut as the others do. I made a similar tool for Tom Bowes to use on his fork tubes and have been thinking of making a batch of them too. Let me know how much interest there is,the price will be
reasonable .
PS , Permatex high temp anti sieze compound is the best thing to
use
on the threads, If threads are worn, a few layers of Teflon pipe tape wrapped CLOCKWISE from the end of the nut can buy you a lot of
time. It
takes up extra clearance and cushions the threads from further
wear.
Kevin Graf wrote:
Thanks, I found some that look like they would work on the
website.
"I checked my nuts (ahem) at each fuel stop"
There's a T-shirt there somewhere.
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It's like a set of 3 wee, not so wee and friggin huge. they have a hinge in the middle so that they can fit a variety of diameters, the hook is 1/8-1/4" wide as opposed to the shock adjustors 16
guage
pressed steel. AND they have a neoprene handle. I wrapped mine ina towel
and
stuck it in my tool box. I checked my nuts (ahem) at each fuel stop
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I'll have to look into that sounds allot better than that stupid
V-Twin
>shock adjuster that barely fits right. Are the wrenches sized?
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I think I have a set of your old exhaust nuts. Ugly. Harbor freight sels a set of hook wrenches for 8 bux that work perfectly, don't slip and they don't trash your nuts (har)
>From: Bruce Giller <bgil-@mitre.org> >Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com >To: Loopfram-@topica.com >Subject: Re: EX. Leaks >Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:12:35 -0400 > >============================================================ >FREE Credit Report! >Get your FREE credit report and take advantage of true >credit expertise with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service >trial! It's your key to getting on top of your credit >situation and staying there. Get yours now! >http://click.topica.com/caaadRYb1dfltb2c9oVa/CreditCheck >============================================================ > > My Weapon of Choice is a chain-Visegrip to tighten/remove the
exhaust
>>nuts. This all-purpose tool will grab just about any round
object
and
>>hold it still. Using it on the exhaust nuts, you need to
carefully
>>place the chain for the clearances between the nut and the
cylinder
head
>>can get tight and you don't want the chain scraping the head.
I
also
>>use it (with adequate protection) to disassemble the front
forks.
>> > Bruce > > '72 Eldo > >Ian Adkins wrote: > > Ed, > > > > I can't really remember exactly. I think that a BIG pipe
wrench
was
>> > used....some penetrating oil......lots of pulling and I
think
the
nut
>> > finally collapsed in on itself and the nut came out that
way.
In
hind
>>site > > that was likely a pretty stupid thing to do since I risked
damaging
>the > > threads in the head. Turns out that the only thing that was
destroyed
>>was > > the nut.....I was lucky. You might try heating the nut too. > > > > Is this the new "old" girl you are working on? Did you get
the
bike
>ok? >I'm > > looking forward to meeting you and seeing the bike in the
>> > Date: October 24, 2001 10:38 AM > > Subject: RE: EX. Leaks > > > > >Ian, how did you finally get the header nut loose. I have
one
that I
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