Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: Tire question.....here we go again

Author: Zerhackermann .

Date: Apr 11, 2001, 10:49 AM

Post ID: 1706276398


It ain't that the tires are chinese, slovakian, mexican or californian.
Someone is gonna make the product specifically for the fella who cares about
nothing except the price. It just happened to be CS that hose the niche in
bike tires.

Now the CS tires are perfectly well suited for some folks riding(pedaling)
style. high performance they are not. And I really hate having a tire that I
can outride under me. seen it happen with S shod bikes and even ME77 wearing
bikes.

knew this one fella. wanted to get the most mileage for his buck. told the
tire guy that. Got the ME77s. sold the bike to another fella. a few months
later, he launched the bike into some bushes trying to make a corner behind
the rest of us. done it before on a similar bike. I rode the me77 bike later
(fortunately the bike only got a minor dent) and those me77 tires were
nasty. get them to the edge of their performance envelope and they give up,
completely, no warning, goodbye. I returned the bike, changed my pants, and
we went looking for a new set of tires.

granted, things may have changed and the 77 now may not be the 77 of then.

I have Avon RRs on my /5 cafe racer and they are beautiful. they grip well
in the cold and wet. And when they do give, it is gradually. So you get a
warning. by the time they start warning me I am already pushing the bike and
my limits anyhow.

Now the loopframes, as typically set up, arent corner carving racers. I know
I won't be lookiing for that fun on mine. I'll probably go with a trusty
ME88. decent center tread life, holds well enough on the sides to handle
backroads. Served well on the T-3 police bike.

But no CS for me. I'll eat ramen for lunch for a couple weeks and save up
for the metzlers.

BUT! that is only my opinion. one of the things I like about bike folks is
we tend to have a higher sense of personal responsibilty. Your choice is
your choice.


 From: Richard Clegg <rkmotor-@aol.com>
Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Tire question.....here we go again
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:00:04 EDT

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In a message dated 04/10/2001 10:51:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
guzzis-@hotmail.com writes:

<< Its sad that the Chinese have gotten such a bad rap about the cheapness
of
their products. Yes, a lot of them suck badly, but a lot of the stuff is
pretty good. Considering that they invented (discovered)modern
timekeeping
methods, modern medicine, metallurgy, scientific discovery methods,
philosophic argument and observation, gunpowder, fireworks, firearms, and
a
whole boatload of other things 1,000 years before any other civilization
did
diddleysquat, I'd think they'd have fared a whole lot better than they
did.
Then again, the modern Chinese civilization is a hell of a lot removed
from
their ancestors. Wish they hadn't screwed it all up as they did. Hope
no
one was offended by this...just my observation. Read "The Tao of Pooh"
for
more enlightenment if ya wish...bestphilosophy book ever, and quite
entertaining too.
IMHO
Chris in NC
'74 Eldo civ. >>
Chris - agree with much of what you say - the chen shins are a good low
priced tire - not long on endurance - but if you amortise the $ per mile -
it
works out pretty decent - it all depends on what tire -the c-906 , 907 's
are
pretty good

as far as the modern culture - look at what they are doing to their culture
with the river project !!

Thank you Richard


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