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Subject: RE: Guzzi Myth...

Author: guzzi john

Date: Jul 26, 2001, 12:20 PM

Post ID: 1707653056

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<P>I think I would be a little upset as well if I paid the price for a complete restoration. I can identify with some of the electrical problems but I am riding an unrestored eldo with just under 148,000 miles on the odometer from which I put 122,000 on myself. I replaced my Bosch with a Valeo at around 99,000 and have had to replace 2 relays and a couple of light bulbs, what a gip!!! ( Just kidding). I now have a new wiring harness but would like advice on the oversimplification process Dave spoke of since I have proof that electricity ain't my business. I think the problem eldo is not the norm and I would hope that the folks that restored it would work with you on this to mitigate whatever the problem is. I know several folks interested in finding an old eldo but I don't know anyone that would like to release any R-series Beemers at present. </P></DIV>
<P>I will keep my eyes open.</P></DIV>
<P>Good luck:</P>
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<P>John S. in NC 73.5 Eldo Civ.<BR><BR></P>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Paul Linn <PAUL_-@YAHOO.COM>
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<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
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<DIV></DIV>>To: Loopfram-@topica.com
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<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: Guzzi Myth...
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<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:17:03 -0400
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<DIV></DIV>>I don't think you could have said it better Dave. My Ambo is the sweetest
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<DIV></DIV>>motorcycle I have ever been on. True there are some problems, but that just
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<DIV></DIV>>adds to the charm of these 30 yr olds. It helps you to learn more about her
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<DIV></DIV>>and what makes her happy. I wouldn't trade mine for the world!!
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<DIV></DIV>>Paul
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<DIV></DIV>>69 Ambo
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<DIV></DIV>>.5 74 Eldo
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<DIV></DIV>>-----Original Message-----
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<DIV></DIV>>From: dj-@dotis.com [mailto:dj-@dotis.com]
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<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:55 AM
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<DIV></DIV>>To: Loopfram-@topica.com
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<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Guzzi Myth...
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<DIV></DIV>>Ian, I can't believe that's all the miles you have on that 70 Ambo, is it a
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<DIV></DIV>>trailer /garage queen or something? Norine has twice that already.
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<DIV></DIV>>As for loopframes, my thoughts:
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<DIV></DIV>>The sweetest engine ever made for a bike, runs forever, and doesn't ask for
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<DIV></DIV>>much other than clean oil, and a tweek once and a while.
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<DIV></DIV>>Aftermarket ignition? Why? the stock one will always get you hame, carry a
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<DIV></DIV>>spare set of points and condenser, cap and rotor just in case. Dual point
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<DIV></DIV>>ignigion? Why in the world would you want to introduce that kind of a
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<DIV></DIV>>problem? To run better, when how? what rpm? If you want a race bike you
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<DIV></DIV>>don't
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<DIV></DIV>>need a loopframe. To make it easier to set up? No way! No added value, just
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<DIV></DIV>>problem (all this is my opinion of course, but kinda backed up with
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<DIV></DIV>>experience) If your loopframe engine is set up properly, you don't need
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<DIV></DIV>>chokes and you don't need a $500.00 starter to make it start, a quick touch
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<DIV></DIV>>of the button and she roars (I can't imagine wearing out a starter on a
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<DIV></DIV>>properly tuned loopframe)! If it doesn't something is wrong. It's a simple
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<DIV></DIV>>process, compression? spark? fuel? runs! if not is the spark at the right
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<DIV></DIV>>time? is the fuel good? Wireing? I always rewire and overly simplify it, I
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<DIV></DIV>>dislike the origional wiring and consider it much too complicated. In
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<DIV></DIV>>reality
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<DIV></DIV>>all you need to make a loopframe run is a wire from the battery to the coil!
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<DIV></DIV>>An easy way to troubleshoot electrical problems, and a nice backup just in
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<DIV></DIV>>case, always carry a jumper wire. There is nothing with a loopframe, they
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<DIV></DIV>>the sweetest ride around, I can't explain how cool they are just purring
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<DIV></DIV>>down
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<DIV></DIV>>the road, you guys that RIDE them know what I mean, you have to experience
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<DIV></DIV>> I enjoy my loopframe more than my EV, and I never forget to turn off the
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<DIV></DIV>>turn signal on the loopframe. (maybe that's because I use my hand) If you
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<DIV></DIV>>want a loopframe, you can go several ways, a used one, (don't forget they
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<DIV></DIV>>30 years old) you can ride it and bear with it, you'll have problems here
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<DIV></DIV>>there, or you can restore it to origional and make a few upgrades perhaps,
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<DIV></DIV>>or
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<DIV></DIV>>you can buy one restored and then you deal with who put it together and how.
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<DIV></DIV>>They are simple bikes and that is one of the things that makes them cool. If
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<DIV></DIV>>you don't want to put the mechanicals right, then you will heat up your
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<DIV></DIV>>starter trying to get going, flood easily and start hard because your
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<DIV></DIV>>compression is low, have weak or intermitent spark because of bad wiring.
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<DIV></DIV>>Fix
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<DIV></DIV>>it, it's much more fun that way! I know Guzzzi riders are cheap at heart,
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<DIV></DIV>>but
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<DIV></DIV>>if you want the problems to go away, make things right without cutting
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<DIV></DIV>>corners and hit the road on two wheels.
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<DIV></DIV>>I'm just ranting here having a good time.
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<DIV></DIV>>One more thing a lot of people have payed a lot of money to a certain dealer
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<DIV></DIV>>and it seems they all have one thing in common, Problems! You can always
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<DIV></DIV>>expect a few bugs, but they shouldn't be major.
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<DIV></DIV>>Oh yes and my loopframe is extremely reliable!
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<DIV></DIV>> > Paul,
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<DIV></DIV>> > Sorry to hear that you are having troubles with your bike.
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<DIV></DIV>> > I have two bikes. On my 69 Ambo I have ridden over 3,000 miles without a
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<DIV></DIV>> > problem. My restored 70 Ambo has over 1000 miles on her now without a
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<DIV></DIV>> > problem.
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<DIV></DIV>> > This past weekend while at the Ontario Rally I remember my riding buddy
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<DIV></DIV>> > Hubert Curran say that through his 100,000+ miles he has had little
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<DIV></DIV>>trouble
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<DIV></DIV>> > on his Eldo.
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<DIV></DIV>> > Any mechanical being can break down. I can remember my dad telling me once
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<DIV></DIV>> > that he had this old Olds car. He was forever putting money into the car
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<DIV></DIV>> > and he was at the point of getting rid of it. But he said he didn't and at
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<DIV></DIV>> > some point he stopped having the fix the car and all he did was put gas
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<DIV></DIV>>and
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<DIV></DIV>> > oil in the thing for the next two years.
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<DIV></DIV>> > Hopefully you will get to that point.
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<DIV></DIV>> > Regards....Ian
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<DIV></DIV>> > p.s. if I had a BMW I would swap you in a second.
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<DIV></DIV>> > -----Original Message-----
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<DIV></DIV>> > From: Paul Beaulieu <CAN-@NTL.SYMPATICO.CA>
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<DIV></DIV>> > To: Loopfram-@topica.com <LOOPFRAM-@TOPICA.COM>
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<DIV></DIV>> > Date: July 25, 2001 9:38 AM
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<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: Guzzi Myth...
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<DIV></DIV>> > >Every one talks about the wonderful Moto Guzzi and it's indestructable
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<DIV></DIV>> > >motor ..But what about the rest of the bike ?
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<DIV></DIV>> > >I am used to my old R90/6 , just put gas and go. Just like a car . Last
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<DIV></DIV>> > >year I traded it in on a "total restored " eldorado from Harpers,and
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<DIV></DIV>> > >that was the begining of constant problems ..no not the motor but all
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<DIV></DIV>> > >the rest .....Just like an old british bike. Does anyone on this page
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<DIV></DIV>> > >actualy have a reliable loopframe that is sutable for touring? Me I
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<DIV></DIV>> > >have just about had enof... next year I will ride insted of fixing
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<DIV></DIV>> > >..anyone want to swap a BMW for an eldo??
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<DIV></DIV>> > >"crome dont get you home"
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<DIV></DIV>> > >paul beaulieu
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