Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: Guzzi Myth...

Author: Robert Hawkes

Date: Jul 25, 2001, 6:42 PM

Post ID: 1707643329


OK everyone, that's just about the closest thing we will ever get to a Guzzi
Manifesto. I don't think much more needs to be said. Cool Dave!
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From: <dj-@dotis.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Guzzi Myth...


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Ian, I can't believe that's all the miles you have on that 70 Ambo, is it
a
 trailer /garage queen or something? Norine has twice that already.

As for loopframes, my thoughts:
The sweetest engine ever made for a bike, runs forever, and doesn't ask
for
 much other than clean oil, and a tweek once and a while.
Aftermarket ignition? Why? the stock one will always get you hame, carry a
spare set of points and condenser, cap and rotor just in case. Dual point
ignigion? Why in the world would you want to introduce that kind of a
problem? To run better, when how? what rpm? If you want a race bike you
don't
 need a loopframe. To make it easier to set up? No way! No added value,
just a
 problem (all this is my opinion of course, but kinda backed up with
experience) If your loopframe engine is set up properly, you don't need
chokes and you don't need a $500.00 starter to make it start, a quick
touch
 of the button and she roars (I can't imagine wearing out a starter on a
properly tuned loopframe)! If it doesn't something is wrong. It's a simple
process, compression? spark? fuel? runs! if not is the spark at the right
time? is the fuel good? Wireing? I always rewire and overly simplify it, I
dislike the origional wiring and consider it much too complicated. In
reality
 all you need to make a loopframe run is a wire from the battery to the
coil!
 An easy way to troubleshoot electrical problems, and a nice backup just in
case, always carry a jumper wire. There is nothing with a loopframe, they
are
 the sweetest ride around, I can't explain how cool they are just purring
down
 the road, you guys that RIDE them know what I mean, you have to experience
it
 I enjoy my loopframe more than my EV, and I never forget to turn off the
turn signal on the loopframe. (maybe that's because I use my hand) If you
want a loopframe, you can go several ways, a used one, (don't forget they
are
 30 years old) you can ride it and bear with it, you'll have problems here
and
 there, or you can restore it to origional and make a few upgrades perhaps,
or
 you can buy one restored and then you deal with who put it together and
how.
 They are simple bikes and that is one of the things that makes them cool.
If
 you don't want to put the mechanicals right, then you will heat up your
starter trying to get going, flood easily and start hard because your
compression is low, have weak or intermitent spark because of bad wiring.
Fix
 it, it's much more fun that way! I know Guzzzi riders are cheap at heart,
but
 if you want the problems to go away, make things right without cutting
corners and hit the road on two wheels.

I'm just ranting here having a good time.

One more thing a lot of people have payed a lot of money to a certain
dealer
 and it seems they all have one thing in common, Problems! You can always
expect a few bugs, but they shouldn't be major.

Oh yes and my loopframe is extremely reliable!



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Paul,

Sorry to hear that you are having troubles with your bike.

I have two bikes. On my 69 Ambo I have ridden over 3,000 miles without a
problem. My restored 70 Ambo has over 1000 miles on her now without a
problem.

This past weekend while at the Ontario Rally I remember my riding buddy
Hubert Curran say that through his 100,000+ miles he has had little
trouble
 
 on his Eldo.

Any mechanical being can break down. I can remember my dad telling me
once
 
 that he had this old Olds car. He was forever putting money into the car
and he was at the point of getting rid of it. But he said he didn't and
at
 
 some point he stopped having the fix the car and all he did was put gas
and
 
 oil in the thing for the next two years.

Hopefully you will get to that point.

Regards....Ian

p.s. if I had a BMW I would swap you in a second.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Beaulieu <can-@ntl.sympatico.ca>
To: Loopfram-@topica.com <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Date: July 25, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Guzzi Myth...

 Every one talks about the wonderful Moto Guzzi and it's indestructable
motor ..But what about the rest of the bike ?

I am used to my old R90/6 , just put gas and go. Just like a car . Last
year I traded it in on a "total restored " eldorado from Harpers,and
that was the begining of constant problems ..no not the motor but all
the rest .....Just like an old british bike. Does anyone on this page
actualy have a reliable loopframe that is sutable for touring? Me I
have just about had enof... next year I will ride insted of fixing
..anyone want to swap a BMW for an eldo??

"crome dont get you home"
paul beaulieu

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