Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: Plans for the White Eldo/Clutch Grab

Author: Greg Field

Date: Sep 1, 2004, 10:38 AM

Post ID: 1717457054



What happens if the engine and tranny are not on centerline is that you
turn the input hu and plate-spline interface into a planetary gear.

GF

On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 09:43 AM, Ian Adkins wrote:

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Patrick,

Thanks for the thoughts...yeah...I have thought about this problem
being in
the tranny. Didn't think about the concentric idea though. Maye
something
like the input hub gets hung up when the metal warms up?

Ed and I did take the back cover off the tranny last time the engine
was
out. Everything looked perfect inside. I was wondering if there could
be a
shimming problem though. At any rate the tranny is perfect when
shifting and
running. I'll pray to the Loop Gods that this isn't the problem :-)

I've thought a lot about this problem (especially as I am lurching my
way
through the city) .....and not sure what to think sometimes. I hate not
having a logical solution and clear indications of where the problem
is.
Certainly all the indications lead to the clutch assembly but is that
the
symptom or the problem. I'll let y'all know after this weekend.

...Ian

 -----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Hayes [mailto:peha-@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:29 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Plans for the White Eldo/Clutch Grab


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Ian, I've been watching this thread for awhile. Not sure I have good
news for you. I had a 73 Eldo with terrible hot-grab issues. I
repeatedly did the clutch. Sometimes used bonded, sometimes riveted.
Very frustrating as the bike was apart more than utilized. I was
finally able to get another 74 transmission and my problems mostly
went
away. Guzziology talks about this. Because of all of the big, moving
parts in the clutch, the transmission and the engine cases must be
absolutely square and concentric with each other. They are not made
as
mated pairs. One part made here by Luigi and the other part made over
there by Sergio. Apparently some sets are imperfect. No amount of
parts changing (except for engine and transmisison transplants) is
going
to cure those bikes. Luck of the draw. Mostly it is rare. In the
meantime, a good bath in the bell housing with paint thinner or
mineral
sprits (no, not laquer thinner or gasoline) can do wonders for about
1500 miles. Just a short messy evening job once a month.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

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