Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Plans for the White Eldo/Clutch Grab

Author: Ian Adkins

Date: Sep 1, 2004, 6:37 AM

Post ID: 1717455711



Joe,

I increased the free play in the clutch lever to be sure I wasn't having any
pressure on the push rod (and ultimately the clutch plates). This also had
an effect on the other end of limiting the space that I put between the
plates when the lever was pulled in. This may have been part of the problem
when whatever warped/expanded when the bike became hot. I readjusted the
freeplay and will see if the clutch will fully disengage when the bike is
hot. Have not had a chance to ride the bike enough yet to see.

The big problem is still this grabbiness I am experiencing and my curiosity
as to why it does not pulse/grab when cold but lurches when hot. Does the
material on the plates get soft? Was it something that has gotten on the
plates? Are the plates disintigrating? Is the intermediate plate warping
when hot? All on the list to pay attention to as I tear into the bike.

Thanks for the input...Ian


 -----Original Message-----
From: joe jump [mailto:jum-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:18 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Plans for the White Eldo/Clutch Grab


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Ian,
I put a set of Sureflex plates in my V-7 Sport & they had sort
of a harsh hook-up, but they didn't fail. I have Sureflex in my Norton &
they are butter smooth...of course, that's comparing apples to oranges.

I was wondering if you experience this - as the bike warms up,
more slack shows up in the clutch cable, causing me to have to adjust
the free play to prevent clutch drag, to get smooth shifts into neutral
while stopped, and to prevent a big clunk going from neutral into first
while stopped. I'll turn my cable adjuster 2 plus turns to take up
excess slack between dead cold & after 20 miles of riding. Had the same
thing happen on my Sport-both have Tonti-type 5 speeds.

While at VMD this year I was able to pick up a Tomaselli clutch
lever like the ones used on late police Eldos. It's perch is the same
style as the ones used on Ambos except it's black aluminum instead of
chromed steel, and it has the lever pivot located farther away from the
cable barrel end, yielding a slightly longer pull. Takes a bit more
effort to pull in, but it made a big difference in clutch drag - I still
have to adjust the slack out of the cable as the bike warms up, but
finding neutral at stops is a breeze & if I wait a second or so after
pulling in the clutch, it snicks into first real easy & quiet.

Joe in St Louis
850T powered Ambo
"Junkyard"

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