Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Plans for the White Eldo/Clutch Grab

Author: Ian Adkins

Date: Sep 1, 2004, 9:42 AM

Post ID: 1717456771



Patrick,

Thanks for the thoughts...yeah...I have thought about this problem being in
the tranny. Didn't think about the concentric idea though. Maye something
like the input hub gets hung up when the metal warms up?

Ed and I did take the back cover off the tranny last time the engine was
out. Everything looked perfect inside. I was wondering if there could be a
shimming problem though. At any rate the tranny is perfect when shifting and
running. I'll pray to the Loop Gods that this isn't the problem :-)

I've thought a lot about this problem (especially as I am lurching my way
through the city) .....and not sure what to think sometimes. I hate not
having a logical solution and clear indications of where the problem is.
Certainly all the indications lead to the clutch assembly but is that the
symptom or the problem. I'll let y'all know after this weekend.

...Ian

 -----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Hayes [mailto:peha-@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:29 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Plans for the White Eldo/Clutch Grab


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Ian, I've been watching this thread for awhile. Not sure I have good
news for you. I had a 73 Eldo with terrible hot-grab issues. I
repeatedly did the clutch. Sometimes used bonded, sometimes riveted.
Very frustrating as the bike was apart more than utilized. I was
finally able to get another 74 transmission and my problems mostly went
away. Guzziology talks about this. Because of all of the big, moving
parts in the clutch, the transmission and the engine cases must be
absolutely square and concentric with each other. They are not made as
mated pairs. One part made here by Luigi and the other part made over
there by Sergio. Apparently some sets are imperfect. No amount of
parts changing (except for engine and transmisison transplants) is going
to cure those bikes. Luck of the draw. Mostly it is rare. In the
meantime, a good bath in the bell housing with paint thinner or mineral
sprits (no, not laquer thinner or gasoline) can do wonders for about
1500 miles. Just a short messy evening job once a month.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

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