Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: cleaning, rebuilding motor

Author: Zerhackermann .

Date: Oct 4, 2001, 4:07 PM

Post ID: 1708481752


Back when did plating (valve seats and shims)
the parts would go through a hot caustic soda bath for 15 minutes (to remove
organic oils) and then a muriatic acid bath for 15 minutes (to remove
petroleum oils) previous to the plating solutions. Now now of these parts
had baked on road grime and grease and the parts were steel, but it might
give some ideas.

Isn't muriatic acid gel naval jelly?







 From: Tim Youtsey <ti-@pctusa.net>
Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: cleaning, rebuilding motor
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:06:07 -0700

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I had some luck using simple green to get most of the dirt and greese of
the 70' Ambo that I am rebuilding. I have completely disassembled the
engine. I used (no laughs please)
muratic (pool) acid on the cases. I actually used a resin
thickener used for epoxy and polyester resin with the acid to
turn it into a gel. I painted the cases with the acid and let it set for
approx 15 minutes scrubbing a little with a plastic brush. I rinsed the
acid
off with baking soda and
water. I then washed the cases with hot soapy water and rinsed with hot
water. I had really good results. The aluminum is really bright. I wanted
to
know what to seal
the cases with and I think Tom Bowes may have answered my
question with sodium silicate. Of course I don't have any idea what sodium
silicate is or if it is used in any other
type of household product that I may be familiar with. I noticed that I had
much better results on the engine case.
The timing gear cover and oil pan really didn't brighten
as well. Probably a different alloy of aluminum.

Tim Youtsey, 73' Police, 70' Ambo

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Bowes [mailto:kk-@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 3:22 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: cleaning, rebuilding motor


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Jason,

Before you try bead or any other abrasive media blasting give the parts
a wash with Formula 409, and then Eagle One Formula B mag wheel cleaner.
The 409 gets all the grease out of the pores of the aluminum, and the
mag cleaner etches the surface to give it a consistent look. Make sure
you use HOT water for the cleaning and rinsing in order to get maximum
effectiveness. Clean between cylinder and head fins with a thin, round
brass brush. The cases can later be sealed with sodium silicate gel,
thinned to a water-like consistency, applied with a paint brush and
immediately dried back out with a heat gun. I did this on my cases, they
look great and are easily cleaned
.
jason telford wrote:
 Hi all,

I'm kind of slowly rebuilding my old G5 and I wanted to get the
engine/tranny/rear drive casings clean before I reassemble it. This is
the first time I've been at all concerned about appearance, but hey,
I'm experimenting.


Tom

'70 (July '69) Ambassador
'82 V50-III
Shelby Township, Michigan

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