Subject: RE: clutch question....

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Paul, Greg, and Jason,
Well, there's no turning back now....I called Gordon at MG this morning and the RAM clutch is on it's way. On the way home, I stopped at the beer distributor and bought a case of Augustiner Dark (yes, Jason, it's REALLY good beer, similar to Yuengling Black & Tan, but better!!!)
I figure if I follow Paul's directions to the letter, I should be able to do the job with just 18 beers, so I'll save the other 6 to celebrate AFTER the first ride!!!
Thanks for all the help, guys! I really appreciate it and feel much more confident diving into it after getting the Loop list advice....just one more reason that Guzzi is a cut above the rest!!!
Thanks again,
Bill
73 Bronze Eldo

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Bill,

The only thing you really need to pay attention to is the mark on the crank and the mark on the new flywheel. I just lined everything up with the mark on the tranny housing, removed old clutch and installed new Ram making sure to line the marks up. That was it, or you can follow my 37 step program below. Beer drinking is NOT an option. :)

Remove tranny from engine
Drink a beer
Make sure timing marks on flywheel are lined up with mark on bell housing at the 10 o'clock position (when looking at the rear of the motor)
Drink a beer
Remove all bolts securing starter ring gear and toss in trash
Drink a beer
Remove old crappy clutch plates and warped intermediate plate and toss in trash with bolts from previous step
Drink a beer
Toss clutch springs in trash also
Drink a beer
Remove bolts securing the heavier than crap flywheel from crank
Drink a beer
Remove the heavier than crap flywheel being careful not to drop it on your toes
Drink a beer
Use old flywheel to crush empty beer cans
Drink a beer
Take new shiny big disk looking thing out of box
Drink a beer
Look for mark on side of big shiny thing and line this up with white paint dab on crank and 10 o'clock mark on bell housing
Drink a beer
Apply red loctite to new bolts found in box that big shiny thing came out of
Drink a beer
Put new bolts thru little holes in middle of big shiny thing and using that super expensive torque thingy, crank down on those bad boys in a cross order to 28-20 ft/lbs
Drink a beer
Put some grease of sorts in dimple in center of big shiny thing
Drink a beer
Step back to admire your superb mechanical feat
Drink a beer
Remove old worn out input hub from tranny in any way you see fit
Drink a beer
Place new skinny input hub over shaft sticking out of tranny
Drink a beer
Replace old star washer and nut or use the new improved version (obtainable from MG Cycle) and tighten it all up and bend tabs to prevent nut from falling off while you go cruising
Drink a beer
Attach tranny to motor. Use a long screwdriver to move input hub slightly to engage new big shiny thing
Drink a beer
You know the rest.....
By the time you finish this and have drunk all the beer recommended, you will be too wasted to even attempt to try ride the bike. Drink another beer then call it a night.

Paul
73 Eldo "Elvira" 949 conversion
74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration
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I know in the past there has been some discussion on clutch replacement, but here's another for the great minds gathered on this forum...
I am ordering a RAM clutch from MG Cycle tomorrow, what should I know before installation? I remember reading some stuff on replacing a traditional clutch and needing an alignment tool, is this needed for the installation of a RAM clutch? According to MG's site, it looks like it comes assembled, does that mean all I need to do is to take out the old one and pop in the new? What else should I replace while I'm in there?
Thanks in advance,
Bill
73 Bronze Eldo
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Paul, Greg, and Jason,
 Well, there's no turning back now....I called Gordon at MG this morning and the RAM clutch is on it's way. On the way home, I stopped at the beer distributor and bought a case of Augustiner Dark (yes, Jason, it's REALLY good beer, similar to Yuengling Black & Tan, but better!!!) 
 I figure if I follow Paul's directions to the letter, I should be able to do the job with just 18 beers, so I'll save the other 6 to celebrate AFTER the first ride!!!
 Thanks for all the help, guys! I really appreciate it and feel much more confident diving into it after getting the Loop list advice....just one more reason that Guzzi is a cut above the rest!!!
 Thanks again,
 Bill
 73 Bronze Eldo 
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<DIV>The only thing you really need to pay attention to is the mark on the crank and the mark on the new flywheel. I just lined everything up with the mark on the tranny housing, removed old clutch and installed new Ram making sure to line the marks up. That was it, or you can follow my 37 step program below. Beer drinking is NOT an option. :)
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<LI>Remove tranny from engine
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Make sure timing marks on flywheel are lined up with mark on bell housing at the 10 o'clock position (when looking at the rear of the motor)
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Remove all bolts securing starter ring gear and toss in trash
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Remove old crappy clutch plates and warped intermediate plate and toss in trash with bolts from previous step
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Toss clutch springs in trash also
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Remove bolts securing the heavier than crap flywheel from crank
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Remove the heavier than crap flywheel being careful not to drop it on your toes
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Use old flywheel to crush empty beer cans
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Take new shiny big disk looking thing out of box
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Look for mark on side of big shiny thing and line this up with white paint dab on crank and 10 o'clock mark on bell housing
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Apply red loctite to new bolts found in box that big shiny thing came out of
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Put new bolts thru little holes in middle of big shiny thing and using that super expensive torque thingy, crank down on those bad boys in a cross order to 28-20 ft/lbs
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Put some grease of sorts in dimple in center of big shiny thing
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Step back to admire your superb mechanical feat
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Remove old worn out input hub from tranny in any way you see fit
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Place new skinny input hub over shaft sticking out of tranny
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Replace old star washer and nut or use the new improved version (obtainable from MG Cycle) and tighten it all up and bend tabs to prevent nut from falling off while you go cruising
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>Attach tranny to motor. Use a long screwdriver to move input hub slightly to engage new big shiny thing
<LI>Drink a beer
<LI>You know the rest.....</LI></OL>
<DIV>By the time you finish this and have drunk all the beer recommended, you will be too wasted to even attempt to try ride the bike. Drink another beer then call it a night.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV align=left>Paul</DIV>
<DIV>73 Eldo "Elvira" 949 conversion</DIV>
<DIV>74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV> I know in the past there has been some discussion on clutch replacement, but here's another for the great minds gathered on this forum...</DIV>
<DIV> I am ordering a RAM clutch from MG Cycle tomorrow, what should I know before installation? I remember reading some stuff on replacing a traditional clutch and needing an alignment tool, is this needed for the installation of a RAM clutch? According to MG's site, it looks like it comes assembled, does that mean all I need to do is to take out the old one and pop in the new? What else should I replace while I'm in there? </DIV>
<DIV> Thanks in advance,</DIV>
<DIV> Bill</DIV>
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