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Subject: Re: clutch adjustment

Author: Ted Ward

Date: Jan 13, 2005, 9:26 PM

Post ID: 1718207430


Well, when I got it together, I started to wonder about the springs so I
reached my finger into the center hole and pushed on some of the springs and
when I did, I could feel them snapping into place. I tried it with all of
them, but I'm guessing I may have missed one or two.
I don't actually remember getting the clutch together, but it does seem like
it was difficult which was why I was loathe to take the thing apart again
once I got it together.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Field" <gre-@gregfield.com>
Ted:

It's VERY difficult to get the clutch together unless the springs are
in their pockets, because then all the plates and stuff won't fit
within the clutch basket. Unless you specifically remember such
difficulty, you should look elsewhere for the problem.

Try a quickie cleanout with mineral spirits before you disassemble it
all.

Also, no need to pull the motor. Leave the front mounting bolt in
(after pulling the rear bolt, exhaust, battery plate, and swingarm;
leave carbs, gen, and so on in place) and jack up the back of the
motor. Tranny comes right out.

GF

On Thursday, January 13, 2005, at 02:29 PM, Ted Ward wrote:

 I bet it is a spring problem. <SIGH> I don't want to pull the motor again.
Oh well.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Hayes" <peha-@comcast.net>

Sorry Ted. So you did take the clutch apart. You haven't specifically
stated such, but I presume that this dragging symptom was not here before.
Only the on/off dirty clutch symptom. Unfortunately something is askew.
Although we highly suspect a warped intermediate plate, it could also be
one of the pressure plate springs out of line. Did you have the engine
tipped over on its nose when you assembled the springs and plate? Or did
you glue in the pressure plate springs to hold them square? Did you use a
center tool to compress the pressure plate springs before bolting down the
ring gear? Did you tighten the ring gear bolts in a gentle and balanced
pattern? Error in any of this can lead to problems with the pressure plate
springs and intermediate plate.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA


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I did take everything apart and clean it. Didn't replace anything else
though. I lined up the plates by hand, but didn't put any undue pressure
on
anything until I was sure it was in place. (at least I don't think I did)
now that you mention it though, it does sound like a bent plate. :(
Someone give me a better possibility please!

Ted

----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Hayes" <peha-@comcast.net>

Ted Ward wrote:
 replaced the tranny input gear. This was because my clutch was like
a
 light switch either on or off. Now I have a different problem. I
have it
 adjusted so pulling in the clutch just a little bit disengages it,
but > it
 never FULLY disengages. After it "disengages" I can pull it the
rest of
 the way back but at idle I have to have my feet on the ground to
hold > the
 bike back as it wants to pull forward.

Tell us a little bit about what you did with the clutch. You mention
the new input hub. Did you also do the plates in the clutch itself?
Did you disassemble all and clean the flywheel? What tools did you use
to re-center the plates before compressing?

Sorry, but it sounds an awful lot like a bent intermediate plate. Bent
when you reassembled? If so, you'll have to strip it all down again ane
replace that intermediate plate. If you didn't have the clutch apart,
then I'm at a loss.

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