If it looks like you can get it off and clean up the rod without damaging/pitting it, then I would remove it. You might also want to give Moto International a call and see what they recommend (or even if it is their creation???)
Edward Walton wrote:
The bushing is metal and looked like it was swedged on. Think i should take it off put the outher orings on? TED From: Greg Bender <gr-@thisoldtractor.com> Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Into the timing chest Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:48:14 +0000
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If memory serves, that sounds like one of the special bushings that Moto International used to manufacture before they started selling the special sized o-rings. At least that is what I think I remember reading in Guzziology...
Paul P. Linn wrote:
That bushing should come off so you can use all 6 orings. Normally the bushing was plastic or at least it was on my Ambassador I had. You can use the orings or the cones (MG Cycle) on the shaft.
Paul 73 Eldo "Elvira" 74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration
-----Original Message----- From: edward Walton [mailto:tedwa-@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:03 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Into the timing chest
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Paul the shaft that goes inside tranny to disengage the clutch had a bushing on it where the orings were suppose to go. Bushing was 1/2 inch long and same diameiter as orings. So could only get 3 orings on shaft. Any one else seen this bushing on their tranny shaft??
TED
From: Custom Guzzi <paul-@comcast.net> Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Into the timing chest Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 18:47:59 -0500 Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Get Your Own Support-a-Cure Yellow Bracelet for $1.99 ** Show your support for finding cures for both AIDS & Cancer. Get yours for just $1.99. This bracelet makes a difference. http://click.topica.com/caacYkkb1dfltb6PLDGa/PennMedia ------------------------------------------------------------------- Why could you only get 3 of the 6 orings on? Paul 73 Eldo "Elvira" 74 Eldo "Daisy" undergoing a full police restoration -----Original Message----- From: edward Walton [mailto:tedwa-@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 4:00 PM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Into the timing chest Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Amazing Diet Patch The fastest - Easiest way to lose weight! Try it now FREE! http://click.topica.com/caacYkHb1dfltb6GIoLb/MyDietPatches ------------------------------------------------------------------- Happy New Years Guzzi Guys I have just installed a new MG timming chain tensioner .Very tight fit ! You
really do have to clean the shit out of the engine bottom pan!! My timming sprockets had timming center punch marks instead of paint? Ran into a wierd thing with the clutch push rod, had a metal sleave on it! Could only get 3 of the 6 orings on to keep the oil in the tranny!! Hope it works! Cheers Ted 850 Eldo project From: Charlie Mullendore <li-@loopframe.com> Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Into the timing chest Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 00:41:12 +0000 Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Buy Stocks and Index Funds for just $4 No Account or Investment Minimums and No Inactivity Fees Automatically invest weekly or monthly and build your future. http://click.topica.com/caacVmlb1dfltb6PLDGa/Sharebuilder ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Ted, Sounds like your chain may be too worn to reuse and has possibly slipped
a tooth. Guzzilology is really intended to be a suppliment to the shop manuals. The V700/Ambo/Eldo Shop Manual (at least mine anyways) doesn't have any info. on timing the cam on chain equipped bikes, so you might need to get the V7 Sport/750 S/850-T/850-T3 or later shop manual for that. It's quite simple though - there are (or should be) paint marks on
the camshaft and crankshaft sprockets. These should line up after the chain and tensioner are installed. I can scan the pertinent illustration
and paragraph for you if needed. Guzziology says "Guzzi could have made this job easier if they had punched or scribed timing marks on the gears, but instead we got little dabs of paint. Fortunately they don't seem to wear off. When properly positioned, the two painted teeth of the cam gear are supposed to straddle the one painted tooth of the crank gear. The paint stipe leading to one of the cam gear's mounting holes aligns with the cam's drive pin. With the marks aligned, the cam paint mark should be at 10:00
(while facing the front of the engine)". I did a timing chain w/master link and Valtek tensioner on a friends Eldo a few years back and remember it as not being too hard. With the endless chain you'll need to pull the sprockets off for installation. Moto International sends a Help Sheet with the parts when you buy from them which has plenty of tips to ease installation. I can also scan this
as well if needed. Cheers, Ted Ward wrote:
Thanks for the help so far. I opened up the front of the '74 eldo (Great
Pumpkin as suggested) and there is a chain in thar. The chain is VERY loose, it will touch the sides of the case with some left over. I'm guessing the reason my bike isn't running is the chain slipped a link and timing got bunged. What do I do now?
There is a little item that looks like a tensioner that slides right to left if you loosen the two bolts, but it doesn't look like it would do anything even if the chain were already tight. I slid it all the way in (towards the center) and it does nothing. Is there another way of removing slack or do I have to get a new chain?
Also I guess I'll get a book so I don't have to bother you guys with this stuff (like how to align all the gears correctly and get the chain in place etc...) Does guzziology cover all this stuff or should I get a shop manual?
Thanks for any and all help on this stuff.
Ted
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