Subject: Re: 1975 build plate and signing in

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I recall that when I bought a brand new Eldo in October of 1972, it was sold as a "1973" Guzzi, just like cars were dated as the "next years model".

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cheek
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 4:16 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: 1975 build plate and signing in

Hey David did you like the 4LS brakes? I love them when set up right !
Yes ,Moto Guzzi in years gone by ,as well as many other manufacturers
made changes whenever they felt so inclined. Things began to get a
little stickier by the 70s.

Of course, 1974 models had the front disc

brake.

No , some early 74 models had 4LS fronts and Amal carbs ,as did your
74 titled Eldos. Later 74 Eldos were equipped with disc fronts.
It is all too common to hear the 4 leading shoe equipped Eldos referred
to as "1973 1/2, "NO SUCH THING ! By 1973 the US government was getting
involved and the model year was declared by the manufacturer .This was
to monitor compliance with motor vehicle safety and emission standards
which changed every year.Mid year changes usually required government
approval but did not get a model year change to distinguish them.
The model year stamped on bikes built in late 1973 was 1974. As Greg
explained 1974 model Chevrolets were on the roads in late 1973.

( My 1974 Eldo was built on October of 1973 . Would some would say it
is a 1973 and 10/12 or 1973 and 5/6 ?

David Whalen wrote:

It apparently, was not uncommon for the Guzzi factory
to title mid to late year production bikes as the next
year up even though they were prior year models. I
personally have owned two 1973 Eldo's titled as 1974
models. Of course, 1974 models had the front disc
brake. Neither of my bikes had the juice brake. Both
had the amal carbs. Del Orto was on strike in mid 1973
so they used amals on that production run.

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Hey David,
What's it like to ride the Loop in NYC. Manhattan
has some of the worst
streets for driving I have ever been on and
therefore challenging! The
Missus and I used to live in Chinatown on Kenmare
street, off Delancy. Did
you ever take the Loop way downtown on a quiet
Sunday morning for a ride?
(uhh, before Sept 11th of course - too bad all
that). Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: David Washburn <dwash-@c4.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:14 PM
Subject: 1975 build plate and signing in

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Hey all, My project has yet to turn a wheel on

the road but the build

plate reads:

JULY - 1974

1975 (MODEL)

#062662

As noted I live in NYC. The town so nice they

named it twice.

David

Greg Field wrote:

Chris:

Yes, any Eldo could have a title that says 1975,

but I saw one with

1975 stamped into the data plate for the model

year and a build date

of November 1974.

Sure, that data plate could have been faked, but

I also heard from

dealers of the time that there was a (small)

last batch of Eldos

brought in for 1975, so it could be legit.

GF

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<DIV>I recall that when I bought a brand new Eldo in October of 1972, it was sold as a "1973" Guzzi, just like cars were dated as the "next years model".</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; COLOR: black; FONT: 10pt Arial">From: Gary Cheek</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 4:16 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">To: Loopfram-@topica.com</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">Subject: RE: 1975 build plate and signing in</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Hey David did you like the 4LS brakes? I love them when set up right ! Yes ,Moto Guzzi in years gone by ,as well as many other manufacturers made changes whenever they felt so inclined. Things began to get a little stickier by the 70s. Of course, 1974 models had the front disc > brake. No , some early 74 models had 4LS fronts and Amal carbs ,as did your 74 titled Eldos. Later 74 Eldos were equipped with disc fronts. It is all too common to hear the 4 leading shoe equipped Eldos referred to as "1973 1/2, "NO SUCH THING ! By 1973 the US government was getting involved and the model year was declared by the manufacturer .This was to monitor compliance with motor vehicle safety and emission standards which changed every year.Mid year changes usually required government approval but did not get a model year change to distinguish them. The model year stamped on bikes built in late 1973 was 1974. As Greg explained 1974 model Chevrolets were on the roads in late 1973. ( My 1974 Eldo was built on October of 1973 . Would some would say it is a 1973 and 10/12 or 1973 and 5/6 ? David Whalen wrote: > It apparently, was not uncommon for the Guzzi factory > to title mid to late year production bikes as the next > year up even though they were prior year models. I > personally have owned two 1973 Eldo's titled as 1974 > models. Of course, 1974 models had the front disc > brake. Neither of my bikes had the juice brake. Both > had the amal carbs. Del Orto was on strike in mid 1973 > so they used amals on that production run. > > --- Robert Hawkes <haw-@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > > ============================================================ > > Win 5 Great DVDs – “Shrek”, “The Matrix” plus 3 > > More! > > ViDVD is the first multimedia DVD player to support > > CD-R/W, > > MP3, digital photos, and Internet access. The next > > generation DVD player is here! > >http://click.topica.com/caaaeZJb1dfltb2MSOia/Vialta > > > ============================================================ > > > > Hey David, > > What's it like to ride the Loop in NYC. Manhattan > > has some of the worst > > streets for driving I have ever been on and > > therefore challenging! The > > Missus and I used to live in Chinatown on Kenmare > > street, off Delancy. Did > > you ever take the Loop way downtown on a quiet > > Sunday morning for a ride? > > (uhh, before Sept 11th of course - too bad all > > that). Bob > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Washburn <dwash-@c4.com> > > To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:14 PM > > Subject: 1975 build plate and signing in > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > Win 5 Great DVDs - "Shrek", "The Matrix" plus 3 > > More! > > > ViDVD is the first multimedia DVD player to > > support CD-R/W, > > > MP3, digital photos, and Internet access. The next > > > generation DVD player is here! > > > > > http://click.topica.com/caaaeZJb1dfltb1FlG8a/Vialta > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > > > > > Hey all, My project has yet to turn a wheel on > > the road but the build > > > plate reads: > > > > > > JULY - 1974 > > > > > > 1975 (MODEL) > > > > > > #062662 > > > > > > As noted I live in NYC. The town so nice they > > named it twice. > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg Field wrote: > > > > Chris: > > > > > > > > Yes, any Eldo could have a title that says 1975, > > but I saw one with > > > > 1975 stamped into the data plate for the model > > year and a build date > > > > of November 1974. > > > > > > > > Sure, that data plate could have been faked, but > > I also heard from > > > > dealers of the time that there was a (small) > > last batch of Eldos > > > > brought in for 1975, so it could be legit. > > > > > > > > GF > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > Free Burt's Bees Head to Toe Starter Kit ($9.99 > > value) with > > > your first nonprescription drugstore.com purchase. > > Visit > > > our holiday store and discover gifts that are > > marked down > > > up to 30 percent. > > > > > > http://click.topica.com/caaaeVWb1dfltb1FlG8f/Drugstore.com > > > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > The real heroes of the New York tragedy > > are without a doubt the FIREFIGHTERS. > > Forever Defending...Never Yielding Baseball Hats > > > http://click.topica.com/caaaeExb1dfltb2MSOif/FDNYhats > > > ============================================================ > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! 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Subject: Re: 1975 build plate and signing in

Author: Tim Crump

Date: Dec 23, 2001, 3:44 AM

Post ID: 1709220528

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