Subject: RE: Royal Enfields

Thank you for sharing your opinion as well as reading mine.
I agree with the last line completely. They never were perfect, a lot of
fun and easy to work on. A recent issue of Classic Cycle Mag (I
Believe)had a very good article on the Enfield twins .
Out of 20 or so BSAs I've owned the only one from the 40s was an M-20.
Not exactly the epitome of quality! Out of all the Parallel twin Brits
Ive owned ,Norton ,Triumph ,BSA and Matchless the RE was the tops in
overall quality.My opinion is based on actually owning ,restoring and
touring on them as well as working on bikes owned by others.
I ride Guzzis now mostly because they are kinder to my old bones. If I
were to get another Brit twin the RE would still be at the top of my
list.
Tim Crump wrote:

<<<BTW how many Interceptors have you owned ? Worked on ?>>>

OK, Gary, I'm not going to have a pissing contest with you. I am stating
my opinion, you are entitled to yours.

I, too, love old British iron, and have owned and worked on some, only
BSA, Ariel and Norton. I almost bought an Interceptor in 1970, and I
did like riding it, but careful examination showed it to be typically
British, not tremendously improved over the 1940 BSA I owned, and the
bike needed work that I could not do, being in the Navy at the time.

The only reason I don't have an Indian Enfield is because I can't afford
one at the moment, and have three Guzzi's.

British bikes survive mostly on nostalgia, not perfection.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cheek
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 1:33 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Royal Enfields

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Tim Crump wrote:

The Indian Enfields are made directly from the 1955 Royal Enfields from
Britain. Since then they have made some improvements to them. The
British made Enfields of the 50's were of no better quality. The last of
the Enfields were typical of British manufactured bikes - poorly made
compared to Guzzi or BMW.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cheek
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: T-Shirt

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Sure would be nice if they came out with a remake of the late
Interceptor twin. I was a great bike VEry SMooth running and the sound
it made was fantastic. I hear if you buy a new Bullet,take it apart and
carefully reassemble they aren't half bad. (If you can make a Guzzi or a
Beemer haul you around reliably these can't be that much worse :-) ! )
I do see them calling them Royal Enfields now I think Jim was
referring to the Brit bikes quite a difference in quality.
Tim Crump wrote:

Hey Gary,

YEah, I want one or two myself. Of course only the design is British,
but they did finally get the right to use ROYAL Enfield, instead of just
Enfield. So now they are legally "Royal Enfields".

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cheek
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 8:12 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: T-Shirt

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I was backing up Jim as he was referring to "ROYAL" Enfields as opposed
to Enfields (India). The India Enfields ain't "Royal"! Never owned an
India Enfield but I was thinking about buying a one. If they make more
valve noise than an iron rocker stand Guzzi they might even be safer !
Tim Crump wrote:

Well, we are talking about the Indian Enfields here, so I couldn't say
which was louder...

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cheek
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 7:09 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: T-Shirt

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I have owned 7 RE Interceptors and I would agree. The Guzzi beats them
(louder) hands down. Ride a Guzzi live forever !Here is one of the
Enfields-http://community.webshots.com/album/24267127XGTxWVBjCs
Jim Beeler wrote:

Hmmmm... My '68 Enfield 750 Interceptor's valve noise is not even
close to a Guzzi's.... No contest....

Well, looks like Royal Enfield beat us to the punch. According to their
newsletter they will have a T-shirt in the next catalog that has the
slogan "Loud Valves Save Lives" on it.

Tim Crump

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Subject: RE: Royal Enfields

Author: Gary Cheek

Date: Nov 4, 2001, 3:13 PM

Post ID: 1708794163

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