Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters

Author: Charles Mullendore

Date: Mar 18, 2001, 3:33 PM

Post ID: 1705927041

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Hi Charles,

My 73.5 Eldo takes about 20 minutes of riding time before my valve(s)
become noisy. The mystery sound that I hear dosen't really sound the
same as what I perceive as typical valve noise. My lifters always
sound more noisy at 55 mph, especially on the left side. The mystery
sound only takes place after the bike has warmed up and only at
certain rpm's. No one can seem to figure out what it is, including
vary reputable Guzzi repair technicians. The sound dosen't hinder the
performance of the bike, it's just antagonizing. If you or anyone else
on the list can give me some input, I would love to hear from you.
1-800-874-4216.

Thanks:

John S. In Hickory, N.C.

73.5 Eldo Civ.

From: Charles Mullendore
Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:36:33 -0800

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Hi Richard,
I've noticed with my early '69 Ambassador that it takes a good 1/2

hour of

riding in cool weather before the engine warms up completely and the

valves

quiet down. At least if you hear the valves tapping you know you've

got

clearance (good), if you don't hear any noise they might be too tight

and burn

(bad). :-) Too much clearance can eventually cause damage, but

shouldn't cause

the bike to leave you stranded.
Cheers,

Charlie
3 Ambos

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Hi Charlie,

The bike has 22k original miles, barely broken in. The bike did

set up

for 27 years started every once in awhile I finally found out.
Any way I adjust the valves at TDC, I ensure this by checking the

position

of the rotor and removing the plug and very gently slipping a

small screw

driving in the hole ( just until I feel a little presure.) to make

sure the

piston is on top. I adjust the valves with the bike cold, I have

rechecked

the adjustmeents a couple of times as well. I guess I am paranoid

as I just

got it registered to where I can go on a road trip and don't want

to end up

pushing.

Thanks,
Rick
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From: Charles Mullendore
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Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters

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Hi Richard,
V700s and early Ambos aren't exactly powerhouses especially if

you've

gotten used to riding anything more modern. The gear whine is a
characteristic of the four-speed transmission and is nothing to

worry

about. I like the sound of the old four-speed and the barely

audible cam

gears whirring merrily along. I also like a little valve noise -

but not

too much. :-) I set my valves on the "base" of the cam lobe -

that is

the point on the cam opposite maximum lift. Turn the engine

until the

valve you are adjusting is fully open, then turn the crankshaft

one

complete turn. The lifter will then be on the base of the cam

lobe and

the valve ready for adjusting. Works for me, hope it helps for

you. How

many miles on the bike? It could be worn rockers or lifters if

it's high

mileage. Later,

Charlie
3 Ambos

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Hi all, I finally got my 67 V700 registered yesterday, driving

to the

court house was the first long trip on the bike if you can

call 10

miles round trip long.Any way the bike seems to make a lot of
lifter/rocker noise. How much is too much, I rechecked the

valve lash

today and it is at .1 mm in and .203 mm outwhich is what the

book

calls for. The bike doesn't seem to have a whole lotta power

either,

although I was in traffic I did get up to 50 mph. Boy do you

get a

lotta looks riding a loop frame. I still have a ways to go to

finish

it but at least I am riding it, I want to do a longer trip

tommorrow

maybe if it isn't raining. One other thing I noticed is a

slight

whinning sound from the tranny is that normal, seemed louder

at 45 or

50. Thanks for all the advice from everyone, Rick67 V700 Fl

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