Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters

Author: Richard Cunningham

Date: Mar 18, 2001, 10:47 AM

Post ID: 1705924242


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Hi,
I haven't really been on a good 30 min run but generally let the bike =
warm up. I just got back from the best ride I have taken and I noticed =
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weird noise kinda like a tic or a ping maybe I am not sure what a ping =
in a motor sounds like. I did richen the left carb a tad seemed to help =
the performance.
I don't think the valve lash is too loose as I have checked it, but the =
noise is kinda bothersome. I guess I'll rider til she stops, probably =
get to go on a longer ride next week end. I have a wixom fairing but =
don't have it on the bike I don't really like the look.

Thanks,
Rick
----- Original Message -----=20
From: guzzi john=20
To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters


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Hi Charles,

My 73.5 Eldo takes about 20 minutes of riding time before my valve(s) =
become noisy. The mystery sound that I hear dosen't really sound the =
same as what I perceive as typical valve noise. My lifters always sound =
more noisy at 55 mph, especially on the left side. The mystery sound =
only takes place after the bike has warmed up and only at certain rpm's. =
No one can seem to figure out what it is, including vary reputable Guzzi =
repair technicians. The sound dosen't hinder the performance of the =
bike, it's just antagonizing. If you or anyone else on the list can give =
me some input, I would love to hear from you. 1-800-874-4216.

Thanks:

John S. In Hickory, N.C.

73.5 Eldo Civ.



>From: Charles Mullendore=20
>Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
>To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
>Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters=20
>Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:36:33 -0800=20
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>I've noticed with my early '69 Ambassador that it takes a good 1/2 =
hour of=20
>riding in cool weather before the engine warms up completely and the =
valves=20
>quiet down. At least if you hear the valves tapping you know you've =
got=20
>clearance (good), if you don't hear any noise they might be too tight =
and burn=20
>(bad). :-) Too much clearance can eventually cause damage, but =
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> > The bike has 22k original miles, barely broken in. The bike did =
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> > for 27 years started every once in awhile I finally found out.=20
> > Any way I adjust the valves at TDC, I ensure this by checking the =
position=20
> > of the rotor and removing the plug and very gently slipping a =
small screw=20
> > driving in the hole ( just until I feel a little presure.) to make =
sure the=20
> > piston is on top. I adjust the valves with the bike cold, I have =
rechecked=20
> > the adjustmeents a couple of times as well. I guess I am paranoid =
as I just=20
> > got it registered to where I can go on a road trip and don't want =
to end up=20
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> > Thanks,=20
> > Rick=20
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: Charles Mullendore=20
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> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:23 PM=20
> > Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters=20
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> > > V700s and early Ambos aren't exactly powerhouses especially if =
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> > > characteristic of the four-speed transmission and is nothing to =
worry=20
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audible cam=20
> > > gears whirring merrily along. I also like a little valve noise - =
but not=20
> > > too much. :-) I set my valves on the "base" of the cam lobe - =
that is=20
> > > the point on the cam opposite maximum lift. Turn the engine =
until the=20
> > > valve you are adjusting is fully open, then turn the crankshaft =
one=20
> > > complete turn. The lifter will then be on the base of the cam =
lobe and=20
> > > the valve ready for adjusting. Works for me, hope it helps for =
you. How=20
> > > many miles on the bike? It could be worn rockers or lifters if =
it's high=20
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> > > > lifter/rocker noise. How much is too much, I rechecked the =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I haven't really been on a good 30 min run =
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generally let the bike warm up. I just got back from the best ride =
I have=20
taken and I noticed a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>weird noise kinda like a tic or a ping maybe I am =
not sure=20
what a ping in a motor sounds like. I did richen the left carb a =
tad=20
seemed to help the performance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I don't think the valve lash is too loose as I have =
checked=20
it, but the noise is kinda bothersome. I guess I'll rider til she =
stops,=20
probably get to go on a longer ride next week end.</FONT><FONT size=3D2> =
I have a=20
wixom fairing but don't have it on the bike I don't really like the=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> Rick</FONT></DIV>
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john</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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title=3DLoop-@topica.com>Loopfram-@topica.com</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 18, 2001 =
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Noisy =
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<P>Hi Charles,</P>
<P>My 73.5 Eldo takes about 20 minutes of riding time before my =
valve(s)=20
become noisy. The mystery sound that I hear dosen't really sound the =
same as=20
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noisy at=20
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place after=20
the bike has warmed up and only at certain rpm's. No one can seem to =
figure=20
out what it is, including vary reputable Guzzi repair technicians. The =
sound=20
dosen't hinder the performance of the bike, it's just antagonizing. If =
you or=20
anyone else on the list can give me some input, I would love to hear =
from you.=20
1-800-874-4216.</P>
<P>Thanks:</P>
<P>John S. In Hickory, N.C.</P>
<P>73.5 Eldo Civ.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: Charles Mullendore =
<C.D.MUL-@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
<DIV></DIV>>To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 08:36:33 -0800=20
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<DIV></DIV>>Hi Richard,=20
<DIV></DIV>>I've noticed with my early '69 Ambassador that it takes =
a good=20
1/2 hour of=20
<DIV></DIV>>riding in cool weather before the engine warms up =
completely=20
and the valves=20
<DIV></DIV>>quiet down. At least if you hear the valves tapping you =
know=20
you've got=20
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might be too=20
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<DIV></DIV>>(bad). :-) Too much clearance can eventually cause =
damage, but=20
shouldn't cause=20
<DIV></DIV>>the bike to leave you stranded.=20
<DIV></DIV>>Cheers,=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Charlie=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > Any way I adjust the valves at TDC, I ensure this =
by=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > of the rotor and removing the plug and very =
gently=20
slipping a small screw=20
<DIV></DIV>> > driving in the hole ( just until I feel a little=20
presure.) to make sure the=20
<DIV></DIV>> > piston is on top. I adjust the valves with the =
bike cold,=20
I have rechecked=20
<DIV></DIV>> > the adjustmeents a couple of times as well. I =
guess I am=20
paranoid as I just=20
<DIV></DIV>> > got it registered to where I can go on a road =
trip and=20
don't want to end up=20
<DIV></DIV>> > pushing.=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > Thanks,=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Rick=20
<DIV></DIV>> > ----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV></DIV>> > From: Charles Mullendore=20
<C.D.MUL-@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
<DIV></DIV>> > To: <LOOPFRAM-@TOPICA.COM>
<DIV></DIV>> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 11:23 PM=20
<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: Re: Noisy Lifters=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > > too much. :-) I set my valves on the "base" =
of the=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > > the point on the cam opposite maximum lift. =
Turn the=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > > valve you are adjusting is fully open, then =
turn the=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > > complete turn. The lifter will then be on =
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<DIV></DIV>> > > the valve ready for adjusting. Works for me, =
hope it=20
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<DIV></DIV>> > > many miles on the bike? It could be worn =
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