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Paul and Greg,
Thanks for your responses, I was wondering if I might have the first one.
Greg, I assume you are the same Greg Field who authored the book "Moto Guzzi big twins". On page 27 there is a copy of a price list Effective Feb 1, 1969. For the Ambo they list a Date of Availability to be announced at Daytona time. Does that make sense if mine was manufactured in Dec. of 1968? Any chance you could scan that memo and email it? Any other good sources of info on these early Ambos?
Thanks again,
Steve
On Jul 13, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Greg Field wrote:
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It's real. I have a premier motor corp. memo thtat mentions the 12xxx-numbered ambassadors and the difference between them and the later ambassadors.
GF
On Wednesday, July 13, 2005, at 06:05 AM, Custom Guzzi wrote:
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Steve,
Welcome to the list! By the looks of it you may have the very first Ambo out of production. I have not come across one with A12000 yet, so right now yours is the first! Yep, no 10XXX, 11XXX or even 19XXX or 20XXX that we can find. The only real way to check if yours is really a Ambassador is to pull the head and measure the piston. 80mm for V700 and 83mm for Ambo and Eldo. The Eldo just used a longer stroke to obtain the 850cc. I wouldn't pull the head unless you are rebuilding everything, no sense in disabling a running bike just to satisfy your curiosity right? So far to date we have 321 loops accounted for of which 38 are V700, 130 are Ambassador and 153 Eldorados. But I know there are more out there, as not everybody has volunteered their VIN for the records.
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Ingram [mailto:sing-@atlantic.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:53 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: Re: VIN # Ambo or Eldo
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Since we're making introductions and talking VIN #'s here, I've been lurking on the list here for a couple of weeks now. My name is Steve and I just acquired what I believe to be an early Ambo. The chassis number is 12.001 and the engine number is A12001. I found an article on the MGNOC website by Ian Adkins about 'rare birds' that refers to this A prefix as maybe being pre-production or first run production Ambos. (http://www.mgnoc.com/_overlay/Archives/rare_birds.htm) He also mentions that he has not seen an Ambo with #'s 10xxx or 11xxx. Mine has a manufacture date of Dec. 1968 which also does not fit what I've been able to find about Ambos. Do I actually have a very early Ambo or is it a V700 with an Ambo decal stuck on it?
Thanks for your help and I'm sure I'll be back with more questions as I become more familiar with the bike. BTW, I'm in Gainesville, FL and just missed the gathering at Big Daddy's a couple of weeks ago. I had just acquired the bike and did not have the registration (or a license) yet. I hope to make the gathering coming up in Brooksville in October.
Steve
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