Subject: RE: Clutch weirdness
Author: Kevin Graf
Date: Jun 29, 2005, 10:54 AM
Post ID: 1719093542
What if the 1st set I put in were shorter and "lighter. Wouldn't that
achieve coilbind before the plates are disengaged?
I know for a fact that upon measuring the 1st set new of springs, they
were a couple thousands short of specs.
I don't think it was an alignment/seating issue, just cause I had it
apart checking things a few times...
Kev
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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:01 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Clutch weirdness
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Yea, right Kev!
I guess, if the wire diameter & number of coils are the same, but the
gaps between the coils were larger on one set of springs as compared to
another (longer free length), you could get more travel between free
length and coil bind. But the distance between the pressure plate and
the flywheel (where the springs live) is fixed by the thickness of the
clutch pack, i.e., the 2 friction plates, the intermediate plate, and
the pressure plate, stacked up against the ring gear. Longer free length
springs with same wire gage & coils just provide more spring pressure
because they are compressed more. Maybe your problem was related to
indexing of the pressure plate to the flywheel; if they aren't alligned
correctly the springs won't fit into their pockets provided in the
flywheel & pressure plate, which probably would cause a coil bound
condition.
Kevin Graf wrote:
Just the opposite. Well, the way I figured it was that the plates are under load or |
| tension all the time and at the rear of the pack, so, they are already compressed, as you pull the clutch in, the clutch arm pushes on the rod/pressure plate, this compressed the springs to their limit. The longer springs I got from mg, well were longer which gave the springs more travel to be able to disengage the plates all the way.. right? right...:-) Kev -----Original Message----- From: joe jump [mailto:jum-@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:33 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Clutch weirdness Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get a Free T-Mobile Sidekick II plus $500 towards service! Click here. http://click.topica.com/caadGKUb1dfltb63b4qa/ProductTestPanel ------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregs, As I recalled, I used the same spacers that came |
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| machines share the same part number 1242 9800. Kev- don't quite follow how short clutch springs wouldn't allow the clutch to disengage - sure you didn't mean springs that were too long, coil bound, preventing disengagement? Wouldn't |
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