Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: fork oil

Author: bluezi-@att.net

Date: Mar 3, 2005, 2:47 PM

Post ID: 1718488180




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Greg,
You mention heavy oil in the forks.....as I am in the midst of a fork seal replacement job, what type/grade of oil do you recommend, and how much of it?
I just dis-assembled my forks today, and a gelatinous substance was covering the springs...sort of resembled the goo that covered the creature in the movie "Alien"....might have been either grease or some strange mutation of thirty two year old fork oil. Anyway, my other question is, should the springs have a coating of grease on them before re-assembly? Is that what the strange substance once was????
Thanks,
Bill
73 Bronze Eldo

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The first basic is, the Guzzi drum forks have no dampers. For all
practical purposes, they're just a set of springs holding the sliders
from bottoming on the tubes, kinda like old shocks that have lost most
of their oil.

Heavy oil in the forks adds some drag that mimics damping, and the
forcing cone at the bottom also is a crude form of damping. That's the
best you can do on these forks without adding some form of damping rods.

I'm working on a way to fit FAC sealed dampers inside. I'll have to
make some tooling and use it to modify each slider. I want to do this
on my V7 and A-series Ambo, but if others are interested, it might
prompt me to devote more time to the effort.

I shipped a bunch of alternator kits yesterday. Some of you will see
them soon.

GF

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Okay, education time for me. Can you explain the differences - or at
least point me to a good resource to read - about spring, dampers, etc?

Greg Field wrote:
 
Since you fellers are putting so much time into improving your forks,
meebe you'd be interested in really improving them.

I'm working on a way to fit dampers to Loop drum forks. Might some of
you also be interested?

GF

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Hi Ray,

Just the springs, no spacers.

Ray Hale wrote:
 
Greg,
I also installed the Wirths on my Eldo but have yet to ride it, so
no
impressions. Did you use a preload piece as well or just the
springs?
Ray

Greg Bender wrote:
 
Last weekend I installed new Wirth fork springs and a new set of
the
13.25" Ikon shocks (thanks, MG Cycle). Wow, what a difference! The
bike
handles much better with slightly quicker steering and I really
appreciate the additional ground clearance (which I even found
forgiving


of the Dunstalls replicas mounted wide and low when I didn't choose
the
best line through some curves). I'm no suspension expert by any
stretch
of the imagination, but I'm very happy with my upgrades.
Originally,
I
had the stock fork springs and a very cheap set of 12.5" shocks on
the
rear (less than $50). Why didn't I make this upgrade long before
now?!?
Now, I just need to find a completely free Saturday that I can go
ride
around and play with all the settings on the Ikon shocks. :>

Regards,

Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender



pax sine tedio
73 Eldo "19"



Regards,

Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
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Regards,

Greg Bender
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2000 Quota
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<P> You mention heavy oil in the forks.....as I am in the midst of a fork seal replacement job, what type/grade of oil do you recommend, and how much of it?</P>
<P> I just dis-assembled my forks today, and a gelatinous substance was covering the springs...sort of resembled the goo that covered the creature in the movie "Alien"....might have been either grease or some strange mutation of thirty two year old fork oil. Anyway, my other question is, should the springs have a coating of grease on them before re-assembly? Is that what the strange substance once was????</P>
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