Thanks Mike. Do you have Roy's email address? I haven't been on the MGCL for almost two years now, can't say I miss it. Couldn't take all the "negative vibes" there, which is exactly the greatest thing about the Loop List. Other than the long ago battles between Zerhackerman and a person who shall remain nameless, this list has been a model of civility and cooperation. Despite what the person who shall remain nameless thinks, there is great value to this list and all of it's members (including him). We all have something to offer... Okay, down off my soapbox now!