| | i would assume it don't need to flow much - just enough to keep it
circulating through the cooler..i think the real problem lies in the
amp
draw of the pump. with very little amperage to spare, that pump
could drain
the system of juice quick..
which catalog page was that gear pump? - i couldn't find it..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions
| | I don't know the specs on the stock pump. I guess the purpose of |
| | is only to circulate fluid through the system for cooling, right? |
| | suppose we could do some testing. I looked in the McMaster-Carr |
| | today. They have a gear type pump with Delrin gears and a 12VDC |
| | about $47.00 I'm not sure how a fuel pump would work, but this |
| | would probably work good on ATF. Rated for 13 fl. oz./min 20 PSI |
| | fl. oz./min @10PSI on 200 CPS fluids. Max temp 200 degF. 1.6 amp |
| |
For guys that maybe aren't familiar with McMaster-Carr, they are a |
| | industrial supply house. Probably every manufacturing plant in the |
| | at least one of their big yellow catalogs in the maintenance or
engineering office. They have a great web site too
http://www.mcmaster.com. I buy lots of MC stuff from them too. |
| | tool box locks, vibration mounts, various hardware, fateners of |
| | types. Order online and they ship it fast!
Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:06:40 -0500 greg barratt
<gr-@tonedeaftouring.com> writes:
| | but what flow rate is the stock pump putting out? can't be |
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| | | | 1 amp, seems like a big draw on the convert's electrical |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Giller" <bgil-@mitre.org>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions
| | Solid state Facet fuel pumps are rated at about 1 amp on a 12 |
| | system (www.pegasusautoracing.com) for race cars. The lowest |
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| | | | rate
| | 15 gal/hr @ 1 psi with a maximum fuel pressure of 2.4 psi - |
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| | | | psi.
| |
Bruce
greg barratt wrote:
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it looked like an electric fuel pump..though i wouldn't |
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| | | | would
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| | | | to flow very much..he mounted it near the battery somewhere |
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| | | | the best
of
| | | | my recollection...it was a cylinder type one - maybe 6" |
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| | | | 3"diameter..if
| | | | i could find a really low voltage draw pump that would work, |
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| | | | be all
over
| | | | it....
From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions
| | I think I've heard about that bike. He's using the pump |
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generator
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| | | | | | Interesting idea. Greg, do you know what kind of pump he |
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Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:32:43 -0500 greg barratt
<gr-@tonedeaftouring.com> writes:
>i saw an ambassador vert setup at the ohio rally which
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and an electric pump. vert tranny, ambo motor. tank
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| | | | just like
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chopper oil tank...
i'd like to put an electric pump on a vert project i'm
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missing from timing cover...) anyone done this yet?
i have 2 verts with the lighter flywheel (one of which
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| | | | the one
| | | | | | >i'm
building above..), i have a spare heavy flywheel, but
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they say the lightweight flywheel is unreliable, i
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yet. but then again i only have maybe 10,000 miles on
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there is a yahoo group for verts, that someone may know
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| | | | | | >(mgconvert)
is the group..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions
> Hi Mike,
>
> Well, I certainly don't consider myself an expert on
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> have worked on a couple of 'Verts. Hopefully, I'll be
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> on mine when the weather turns. I fixed one that had
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> couple of years back. I believe that bike had about
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> and it had a sidecar attached. My current bike has
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| | | | miles on
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> it still has the original sheetmetal flywheel. The
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> make is, I think they can last a long time. I know
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| | | | in
| | | | | | >Guzziology
> says he thinks it may have something to do with
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> I have never ridden one with heavier wheel, so I
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| | | | comment on
| | | | | | >how it
> affects the performance. I'd say your choices are:
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> 1. Go with the sheetmetal flywheel and know that you
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> performing set-up, but you may have to get in there
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| | | | if you
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> lot of miles on (and you might get stranded somewhere.
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> have to change a flywheel along side the road).
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> 2. Put the machined flywheel on and never have to
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| | | | about it
| | | | | | >> breaking, but you'll always wonder how much quicker
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> lighter one.
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> It really depends how much it would bother you to
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| | | | it if it
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> break. I'm not changing mine until it breaks.
>
> I don't see why you couldn't build your own ATF
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| | | | I don't
| | | | | | >know
> if there are baffles in there or not. I'd saay you
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| | | | probably
| | | | | | >modify
> a chopper oil tank.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Darrell Dick
> Imlay City, MI
>
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 07:00:22 -0600 EldoMike
<eldo-@netzero.net>
> writes:
> > I asked these questions on the Convert Yahoo List
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| | | | thought
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> > here
> > also since that group is still kinda small...good
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| | | | though,
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> > join if
> > you're into
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> > Anyway, here are my questions....
> > 1. I have a perfect earlier/light flywheel that I'm
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| | | | | | >> > using on
> > my Convert Custom...Guzzilogy says that the bikes
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| | | | quicker
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> > the light wheel...also more fragile...anybody else
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> > with both the heavy(which I also have)and the light
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> > project will probably weigh a couple hundred lbs
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| | | | than a
| | | | | | >stock
> > Convert...
> > 2. Any reason I can't build a custom tranny fluid
> > tank for my Custom...would the quantity that it
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