Subject: Re: Convert Questions

Author: gr-@tonedeaftouring.com

Date: Feb 18, 2004, 11:25 AM

Post ID: 1716078821

I don't know the specs on the stock pump. I guess the purpose of the pump
is only to circulate fluid through the system for cooling, right? I
suppose we could do some testing. I looked in the McMaster-Carr catalog
today. They have a gear type pump with Delrin gears and a 12VDC motor for
about $47.00 I'm not sure how a fuel pump would work, but this gear pump
would probably work good on ATF. Rated for 13 fl. oz./min 20 PSI or 63
fl. oz./min @10PSI on 200 CPS fluids. Max temp 200 degF. 1.6 amp draw.

For guys that maybe aren't familiar with McMaster-Carr, they are a huge
industrial supply house. Probably every manufacturing plant in the US has
at least one of their big yellow catalogs in the maintenance or
engineering office. They have a great web site too
http://www.mcmaster.com. I buy lots of MC stuff from them too. Loopframe
tool box locks, vibration mounts, various hardware, fateners of all
types. Order online and they ship it fast!

Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:06:40 -0500 greg barratt
<gr-@tonedeaftouring.com> writes:

but what flow rate is the stock pump putting out? can't be much..
1 amp, seems like a big draw on the convert's electrical system...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Giller" <bgil-@mitre.org>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions

Solid state Facet fuel pumps are rated at about 1 amp on a 12

volt

system (www.pegasusautoracing.com) for race cars. The lowest flow

rate

15 gal/hr @ 1 psi with a maximum fuel pressure of 2.4 psi - 4.5

psi.

Bruce

greg barratt wrote:

it looked like an electric fuel pump..though i wouldn't think it

would
have

to flow very much..he mounted it near the battery somewhere to

the best
of

my recollection...it was a cylinder type one - maybe 6" long,

3"diameter..if

i could find a really low voltage draw pump that would work, i'd

be all
over

it....

From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions

I think I've heard about that bike. He's using the pump so

the
generator

is in the stock location and he has a stock looper timing

chest cover.

Interesting idea. Greg, do you know what kind of pump he is

using?

Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:32:43 -0500 greg barratt
<gr-@tonedeaftouring.com> writes:

i saw an ambassador vert setup at the ohio rally which had a

fabbed

up tank
and an electric pump. vert tranny, ambo motor. tank was

just like

a
chopper oil tank...
i'd like to put an electric pump on a vert project i'm

building

(pump is
missing from timing cover...) anyone done this yet?

i have 2 verts with the lighter flywheel (one of which is

the one

i'm
building above..), i have a spare heavy flywheel, but

haven't used

it..
they say the lightweight flywheel is unreliable, i haven't

had a

problem
yet. but then again i only have maybe 10,000 miles on the

vert..

there is a yahoo group for verts, that someone may know

more..

(mgconvert)
is the group..




----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Dick" <ddic-@juno.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Convert Questions


>Hi Mike,

Well, I certainly don't consider myself an expert on the

subject,

but I
>have worked on a couple of 'Verts. Hopefully, I'll be

putting some

miles
>on mine when the weather turns. I fixed one that had a

broken

flywheel a
>couple of years back. I believe that bike had about 40,000

miles

on it,
>and it had a sidecar attached. My current bike has 26,000

miles on

it and
>it still has the original sheetmetal flywheel. The point

I'm

trying to
>make is, I think they can last a long time. I know Dave R.

in

Guzziology
>says he thinks it may have something to do with

engine/tranny

alignment.
>
I have never ridden one with heavier wheel, so I can't

comment on

how it
>affects the performance. I'd say your choices are:

1. Go with the sheetmetal flywheel and know that you have

the

best
>performing set-up, but you may have to get in there again

if you

put a
>lot of miles on (and you might get stranded somewhere. I

wouldn't

want to
>have to change a flywheel along side the road).

2. Put the machined flywheel on and never have to worry

about it

>breaking, but you'll always wonder how much quicker it

would be

with the
>lighter one.

It really depends how much it would bother you to change

it if it

did
>break. I'm not changing mine until it breaks.

I don't see why you couldn't build your own ATF reservoir.

I don't

know
>if there are baffles in there or not. I'd saay you could

probably

modify
>a chopper oil tank.

Good Luck!

Darrell Dick
Imlay City, MI

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 07:00:22 -0600 EldoMike
<eldo-@netzero.net>
>writes:
> I asked these questions on the Convert Yahoo List but

thought

I'd ask
>> here
> also since that group is still kinda small...good group

though,

so
>> join if
> you're into
>

Converts(http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/MGconvert/)

>>
> Anyway, here are my questions....
> 1. I have a perfect earlier/light flywheel that I'm

thinking of

>> using on
> my Convert Custom...Guzzilogy says that the bikes are

quicker

with
>> the light wheel...also more fragile...anybody else have
experience
>> with both the heavy(which I also have)and the light

flywheels?

My
>> project will probably weigh a couple hundred lbs less

than a

stock
>> Convert...
> 2. Any reason I can't build a custom tranny fluid
> tank for my Custom...would the quantity that it holds

have to

be
>> the
> same or could it hold more tranny fld?
>
> EldoMike
>http://www.classicguzzi.com/id103.htm
>
>
>
>
>
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