Subject: Re: Canada

Author: ranjan

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thanks Elisabeth

This gives me more info to persue randy
----- Original Message -----
From: alacritas
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: Canada

Hi Ranjan,

I have some general info and a url to a site on state laws that does include info on Canada. I am still trying to get details on the waiver. For those entering Canada or the US, the "agawacanyon" site below has direct links to the updates on wait times at the different border crossings for both US and Canada.

Most information I have gotten says that any alcool related charge make it difficult for someone to get into Canada:

More information is obtained fromhttp://www.agawacanyon.com/border.html

Criminal records

Individuals with criminal records wishing to enter Canada can apply for a waiver. This should be done a minimum of 3 - 4 weeks in advance of the intended visit and can take up to 6 months. It should be noted that Driving Under the Influence convictions are considered a criminal offense in Canada Individuals with criminal records without waivers can be refused entry. Contact the nearest port of entry Canada Immigration office for more information. See contact information below.

Persons without waivers who have only DUI's or other less serious criminal convictions and have no criminal convictions in the past 10 years may be considered rehabilitated when they reach the border but this is at the Canada Immigration officer's discretion. A "Remote Area Border Crossing Permit" may assist the Immigration officer in this determining admissibility to Canada since it requires normal background checks. This permit costs $30.�� Canadian (approx. $20.�� US). More information regarding the "Remote Area Border Crossing Permit" is available at www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html.

Visitors from USA

All visitors from outside Canada, except those from the United States, Greenland, and St. Pierre and Miquelon, must present a valid passport to enter the country. American citizens or permanent residents arriving from the U.S.A. must provide proof of citizenship or residency upon request. Proof of citizenship consists of a passport, original or certified copy of your U.S. birth certificate, current voter's registration card, U.S. military discharge papers, or certificate of citizenship or naturalization. If you are a permanent resident of the U.S.A., but not a U.S. citizen you must provide your 'green card' if requested. Persons under 18 years traveling without their parents should have a letter of authorization from a parent or guardian to travel into Canada.

One web site with general info is the:
Customs Information for Visitors to Canada and Seasonal Resident
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html

General info re driving in Canada:

Driving and Traffic
a.. A valid driver's license from any country is good in Canada for three months.
b.. If you are involved in a car accident resulting in a personal injury or property damage over $700.00, you must notify the police and remain at the scene of the accident until cleared by investigating officers.
c.. After coming to a full stop, right turns may be made on red lights unless otherwise indicated. Proceed with caution only if the way is clear.
d.. Traffic travelling in both directions must stop for a yellow school bus when its red lights are flashing and the stop arm is extended..
e.. Speed limits in Canada are in kilometers per hour (km/h). Freeways have a speed of 100 km/h, rural highways and county roads 80km/h, urban and populated areas range from 40-60 km/h. Speed limits are well posted.
State driving laws:
http://www.statedrivinglaw.com/
>From site:

Regarding NY drivers:

Out-of-State Traffic Violations:
Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Under New York driving law, points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic violation in Ontario or Quebec.

a..

ranjan wrote:

Thanks Elisabeth,If you could post how to get that "pardon certificate", I know that I wouldbe thankful, if not others on the list.I have been checking into the Canadian consulate at Seattle for this sameinfo and what I found arre numerous forms and a ^ month minium waiting time.Also a $150.00 non refundable filing fee (tourist tax??).I have heard about a shorter form and interviesw tha ttakes place with anappt. right at the border ncrossing but as yet have not seen anthing inwriting on this venue.Any help would be much appreciated and rewarded. thanksRandy WilsonSE SoDak----- Original Message -----From: "alacritas" <ej-@sympatico.ca>To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:07 PMSubject: Re: CanadaHi all,I will check what are the rules and post them on the list. I vaguelyrememberhearing there is a certificate you can get to cancel old violations -can'tremember if it applies to getting into Canada or into the USA - I willcheckinto that too.Toughest thing are the delays at the border - usually going into USA. Besttoavoid going through at peak hours.I always find the customs officials are more interested in asking mequestionsabout my bike than searching through my things.This sometimes works: if you get stopped for speeding in Canada and yourspeedometer only shows miles - point to your speedometer and explain youmadea mistake converting the miles to kilometers. That may get you off with awarning or a lesser ticket.Cheers,Elisabethranjan wrote:Leon and listDo all you guys have clean criminal records? At the No Dak andMinnesota(Manitoba) checkpoints they turn away lots of people as "inadmissables"..Accordingly if you have anything on your record that is a felony incanadathey won't let you in. DWI/DUI, certain reckless driving charges,speeding(20mph or more), simple assault, any domestic issues even if it was'ntyourfault, and all kinds of other things. Most of these type charges aremisdemeanors in the states, but felonies in Canada..It seems they start with license plate to find out who owns the vehicleandit goes from there. This has been the norm for about 4 yrs.maybe they are rmad about SoDak prohibiting truckers from haulingcanadianbeef thru So Dak.Either I'm really bad, or other checkpoints are a lot slacker.Randy----- Original Message -----From: "Leon Karlak" <leon_k-@yahoo.com>To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:53 AMSubject: Re: CanadaI second Joe's recomendaton. I go into Canada once ortwice a week (three times this week - TorontoMotorcycle Show is on). The Canadans never give youany trouble, unlike the people who work for me. Justhave some form of government issued photoidentificaton if you are a citizen of one of theseveral states in the U.S.A.--- Joe Casey <joe_c-@msn.com> wrote:been to the canada rally twice. never had a problem.this past rally we crossed the borders with 4guzzi's ,one was pulling a pop up trailer. not oneof us had a problem. guzzi's in utopia is an awesomerally site with great food and plenty of space.contact phil turnbridge ontario mgnoc rep. I believehe also has a website for the rally. check you'renewsletter for phil's e-mail happy new year joe ----- Original Message ----- From: John Prusnek To: Loopfram-@topica.com Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Canada Be prepared to have all of your shit gone throughwith a fine tooth comb; I've heard from several people that goinginto Canada on a bike is an experience they won't repeat. John Prusnek >Good question
, anyone know? > >Custom Guzzi wrote: >What are the requirements for travel into Canada? >__________________________________Do you Yahoo!?Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003http://search.yahoo.com/top2003

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<DIV>thanks Elisabeth </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
<A title-@sympatico.ca href="mailto:ej-@sympatico.ca">alacritas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A title=Loopf-@topica.com
href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:44
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: Canada</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>Hi Ranjan, I have some general info and a url to a site
on state laws that does include info on Canada. I am still trying to get
details on the waiver. For those entering Canada or the US, the
"agawacanyon" site below has direct links to the updates on wait times at the
different border crossings for both US and Canada. Most information I
have gotten says that any alcool related charge make it difficult for someone
to get into Canada:
More information is obtained from <A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.agawacanyon.com/border.html">http://www.agawacanyon.com/border.html</A>
 
Criminal records
Individuals with criminal records wishing to enter Canada
can apply for a waiver. This should be done a minimum of 3 - 4 weeks in
advance of the intended visit and can take up to 6 months. It should be noted
that Driving Under the Influence convictions are considered a criminal offense
in Canada Individuals with criminal records without waivers can be refused
entry. Contact the nearest port of entry Canada Immigration office for more
information. See contact information below.
Persons without waivers who have only DUI's or other less
serious criminal convictions and have no criminal convictions in the past 10
years may be considered rehabilitated when they reach the border but this is
at the Canada Immigration officer's discretion. A "Remote Area Border Crossing
Permit" may assist the Immigration officer in this determining admissibility
to Canada since it requires normal background checks. This permit costs $30.��
Canadian (approx. $20.�� US). More information regarding the "Remote Area
Border Crossing Permit" is available at <A
href="http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html">www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/rabc.html.</A>
 
Visitors from
USA
All visitors from outside
Canada, except those from the United States, Greenland, and St. Pierre and
Miquelon, must present a valid passport to enter the country. American
citizens or permanent residents arriving from the U.S.A. must provide proof of
citizenship or residency upon request. Proof of citizenship consists of a
passport, original or certified copy of your U.S. birth certificate, current
voter's registration card, U.S. military discharge papers, or certificate of
citizenship or naturalization. If you are a permanent resident of the U.S.A.,
but not a U.S. citizen you must provide your 'green card' if requested.
Persons under 18 years traveling without their parents should have a letter of
authorization from a parent or guardian to travel into Canada. One
web site with general info is the:
<H1>Customs Information for Visitors to Canada and
Seasonal Resident</H1><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html">http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4161/rc4161-e.html</A> General
info re driving in Canada: Driving and
Traffic
<UL>
<LI>A valid driver's license from any country is
good in Canada for three months. 
<LI>If you are involved in a car accident resulting
in a personal injury or property damage over $700.00, you must notify the
police and remain at the scene of the accident until cleared by
investigating officers. 
<LI>After coming to a full stop, right turns may be
made on red lights unless otherwise indicated. Proceed with caution only if
the way is clear. 
<LI>Traffic travelling in both directions must stop
for a yellow school bus when its red lights are flashing and the stop arm is
extended.. 
<LI>Speed limits in Canada are in kilometers per
hour (km/h). Freeways have a speed of 100 km/h, rural highways and county
roads 80km/h, urban and populated areas range from 40-60 km/h. Speed limits
are well posted. </LI></UL> State driving laws: <A
class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.statedrivinglaw.com/">http://www.statedrivinglaw.com/</A>
 >From site: Regarding NY drivers: 
<H4>Out-of-State Traffic Violations:</H4>
Except for Ontario and Quebec, points are not added to your NYS driver
record if you commit an out-of-state traffic violation. Under New York driving
law, points can appear on your NYS driver record if you commit a traffic
violation in Ontario or Quebec.
<UL>
<LI> </LI></UL> ranjan wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:1611535143-14637-@boing.topica.com
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Thanks Elisabeth, If you could post how to get that "pardon certificate", I know that I would be thankful, if not others on the list. I have been checking into the Canadian consulate at Seattle for this same info and what I found arre numerous forms and a ^ month minium waiting time. Also a $150.00 non refundable filing fee (tourist tax??). I have heard about a shorter form and interviesw tha ttakes place with an appt. right at the border ncrossing but as yet have not seen anthing in writing on this venue. Any help would be much appreciated and rewarded. thanks Randy Wilson SE SoDak ----- Original Message ----- From: "alacritas" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:ej-@sympatico.ca"><ej-@sympatico.ca></A> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com"><Loopfram-@topica.com></A> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Canada </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Hi all, I will check what are the rules and post them on the list. I vaguely </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">remember </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">hearing there is a certificate you can get to cancel old violations - </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">can't </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">remember if it applies to getting into Canada or into the USA - I will </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">check </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">into that too. Toughest thing are the delays at the border - usually going into USA. Best </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">to </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">avoid going through at peak hours. I always find the customs officials are more interested in asking me </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">questions </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">about my bike than searching through my things. This sometimes works: if you get stopped for speeding in Canada and your speedometer only shows miles - point to your speedometer and explain you </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">made </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">a mistake converting the miles to kilometers. That may get you off with a warning or a lesser ticket. Cheers, Elisabeth ranjan wrote: </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Leon and list Do all you guys have clean criminal records? At the No Dak and </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">Minnesota </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">(Manitoba) checkpoints they turn away lots of people as "inadmissables" </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">.. </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Accordingly if you have anything on your record that is a felony in </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">canada </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">they won't let you in. DWI/DUI, certain reckless driving charges, </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">speeding </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">(20mph or more), simple assault, any domestic issues even if it was'nt </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">your </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">fault, and all kinds of other things. Most of these type charges are misdemeanors in the states, but felonies in Canada.. It seems they start with license plate to find out who owns the vehicle </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">and </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">it goes from there. This has been the norm for about 4 yrs. maybe they are rmad about SoDak prohibiting truckers from hauling </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">canadian </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">beef thru So Dak. Either I'm really bad, or other checkpoints are a lot slacker. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Karlak" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:leon_k-@yahoo.com"><leon_k-@yahoo.com></A> To: <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com"><Loopfram-@topica.com></A> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Canada </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I second Joe's recomendaton. I go into Canada once or twice a week (three times this week - Toronto Motorcycle Show is on). The Canadans never give you any trouble, unlike the people who work for me. Just have some form of government issued photo identificaton if you are a citizen of one of the several states in the U.S.A. --- Joe Casey <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:joe_c-@msn.com"><joe_c-@msn.com></A> wrote: </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">been to the canada rally twice. never had a problem. this past rally we crossed the borders with 4 guzzi's ,one was pulling a pop up trailer. not one of us had a problem. guzzi's in utopia is an awesome rally site with great food and plenty of space. contact phil turnbridge ontario mgnoc rep. I believe he also has a website for the rally. check you're newsletter for phil's e-mail happy new year joe ----- Original Message ----- From: John Prusnek To: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Canada Be prepared to have all of your shit gone through with a fine tooth comb; I've heard from several people that going into Canada on a bike is an experience they won't repeat. John Prusnek >Good question
, anyone know? > >Custom Guzzi wrote: >What are the requirements for travel into Canada? > </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""> __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://search.yahoo.com/top2003">http://search.yahoo.com/top2003</A> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Subject: Re: Canada

Author: ranjan

Date: Jan 8, 2004, 10:27 PM

Post ID: 1715696102

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