Those are factory parts from 1974, and they had a little tab that fit into the head to keep the nuts from loosening. I have a set, also with the tabs snapped off, but I think I can fab up a tab that'll fit into the fins on the head and do the same thing.
Jesse Open wrote:
I saw a pair of those on a '74 DB Eldo at VMD . They looked like they were in good shape . I wonder if it was something MG used on the Disc brake models ??? Karl Kologiski wrote:
I just picked up a 74 Eldo that had a aftermarket accessory on it. It was a finned exhaust clamp similar to the ones on the old brit bikes but the
inside was turned out so the stock guzz exhaust nut wound fit inside it half way while the other half was tightened around the exhaust pipe. Neat Idea, to bad the fins were broken off of it.
Karl and Jane Kologiski MGNOC Central Florida Reps Bird at The Wheel, Motorcycle Arts St. Petersburg Florida
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Cooke [SMTP:cook-@virgin.net] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:51 PM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: Re: exhaust probs
I have lockwired original manifold nuts with stainless wire in the past,
and the sods still moved. maybe that's a reflection of my lockwiring ability, dunno? seemed ok when i did it.
never had aftermarket nut with lockring move. important to use a proper wrench on them though, don't just belt them with a hammer & screwdriver. urgh!
cookie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: RE: exhaust probs
Yeah, I've thought about that in the past and I'm just being a wimp about
it
but I don't really want to drill the heads for something that might not improve the situation. But I'm still tossing it around in the 'ol noggin
and
mybe when the project bike is done I'll screw around with it. Kev
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Linn [mailto:paul-@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 11:11 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: Re: exhaust probs
Why don't you try and add a lock wire to the whole exhaust nut lock ring combo. Would certainly help to prevent it from moving then.
Paul Richmond, Va 73 Eldo custom project 76 T3 basket ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: RE: exhaust probs
Well, I think at one point we came to the conclusion that it would
helps
seal, reduce vibration through the threads and make up for wore threads
to
a
certain extent, and helps the nut stay put a bit longer. My locking exhaust nuts still come loose. Even though the lock nut is
tight,
the actual exhaust nut backs it's way out a hair enough for the engine vibration to waste the gasket. The only real way to tell this is by loosening the locknut. Then I can clearly see that the exhaust nut
decided
to run away again. It's weird, I know, but I have been careful to
notice
if
the exhaust nut comes loose with the lock nut while I'm loosening it
and
it
doesn't. It does it all on it's own. I probably got some real wore
threads.
I would suggest you try loosening the locknut to see where the exhaust
nut
is at, if you haven't already...
Kev
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Cooke [mailto:cook-@virgin.net] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:18 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: Re: exhaust probs
what's the RTV supposed to do?
cookie
ps i got the locking nuts on my own bike & i never have to touch them
or
the
gaskets.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Graf" <kgr-@midwestpension.com> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: RE: exhaust probs
If you got the frame clamps and the locking nuts(I got 'em too but
I'm
not
quit sure if they were worth the $$)You can try some hi-temp RTV on
the
threads (tip from the list!). The combination of these three things
seem
to
make my gaskets last a bit longer.
Kev
-----Original Message----- From: EldoMike [mailto:msse-@classicguzzi.com] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:43 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: Re: exhaust probs
Has it got the frame to exhaust pipe clamps?
Mike www.classicguzzi.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Cooke" <cook-@virgin.net> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 3:19 AM Subject: exhaust probs
to whoever wrote this (i've lost track):
"cookie I always thought exhaust if it pops letting off the
throttle
and
intake air leak if it popped getting on the throtle? B."
an air leak at the exhaust manifold will pop on the over run. an
air
leak
on
the intake will just make it run weak in my experience.
now if anyone knows how to stop an eldo getting a loose joint at
the
head/downpipe i'd like to know. got a friends bike doing this all
the
time.
NOT the nut coming loose (it's the locknut type), it just eats the
gasket
after a few miles, air gets in, backfires like crazy. i put new
gaskets
in
&
it's fine for a while, then same thing.
it started happening when new mufflers were fitted with rear
balance
pipe
removed. i think it may be to do with the pipes moving & flattening
off
the
gaskets. however the exhaust assy doesn't appear to be moving any
more
than
stock.
i must have put 6 sets of ex gaskets in that bike & i'm getting fed
up
now.
cookie
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. C. Bud Durdle" <bu-@olympus.net> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:46 AM Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 861
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 10:16 pm, you wrote: >I heard a little while ago that the popping could be from
looseness
at
the
>head/exhaust header joint, or somewhere close to that. Check to
make
sure
>the exhaust is tight up there, and/or has no leaks.
> I am working on a 74 Eldo I just picked up with Amal Carbs.
When I
let
off the throttle and am gearing down it pops through the mufflers. I have played with the air screws and
it
has
gotten better, but it is still >there. I have checked the carb intake gaskets and they are fine.
Someone
told me this is a common problem with running amals on a Guzzi. Any ideas