Subject: Re: Eldo Front End Problem
Author: Dennis Jones
Date: Apr 19, 2002, 4:32 AM
Post ID: 1710096056
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Paul,
Thanks, but I've tried that already. I've loosened the lower triple clamp pinch bolst, the fork cap nuts, the steering stem nut.....everything. The parts are the same that came off the bike in December and everything fit fine then. I checked the fork tubes for straightness, and checked the axle for straightness, and everything is true. I don't get it.
Dennis
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From: Paul Linn
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Eldo Front End Problem
,
Try loosing the pinch bolts on the lower trees and the top ones slightly before putting the wheel in. After the wheel is in you should be able to get everything straightened out.
Paul
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From: Dennis Jones
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:42 PM
Subject: Eldo Front End Problem
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I need help from some of the experienced loopframe guys. I spent the winter freshing up my '73 Eldo over the winter. Began the assembly process about 2 weeks ago. Getting the motor, transmission, drive shaft, rear drive, shocks, etc in the frame was a breeze. Then came the front wheel. I CANNOT get my front wheel on the bike correctly. I've been trying repeatedly since last Saturday with no success. Must've tried a dozen times. It is a two leading shoe front. When I try to get the axle thru left fork leg, the brake cover , the wheel itself, the dished cover on the other side, and then the right fork leg, it clearly is not in alignment and needs a good deal of force to get the axle thru. When I do get it thru, the wheel is bound up and will turn only with a great deal of force. I measured the forks and they are matching lengths when measured to a fixed point and when measured to the centerline of the axle holes. I nevertheless took the forks off the bike, checked everything, and reassembled the forks. Re-measured and they are identical. When I put the brake shoe assy and the wheel on by themselves without the dished cover, the axle will go thru nicely and the wheel will spin freely. When I put the dished cover on with the wheel and without the brake assy on, it goes together and the wheel spins freely. When I try to put everything on, the axle is clearly cocked. I can force it to assemble, but I literally need 3 guys. One to push up the right end of the axle, one to push down the left side of the axle, and one to tap in the axle in. Except for putting a new tire on the bike, I didn't do anything to the wheel. I bought and installed new soft brake shoes from Mark at MG Classics, and thought it might be them. Removed them and tried to assemble everything without the brake shoes installed and the same binding problem occurred. It does not seem to be a binding caused by things being too tight between the forks. It seems like an axle misalignment problem, yet I have taken dimensions of the forks and they are identical lengths. I have totally exhausted every idea I have, and all I am doing at this point is nicking up my new paint on my fork legs with this repeated assembly and disassembly. And, making absolutely no progress on the bike. It's got nothing to do with the spacer washers, as the wheel won't turn even with the axle nut finger tight. Sure could use some ideas, cause I'm stumped.
Thanks,
Dennis Jones
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks, but I've tried that already. I've
loosened the lower triple clamp pinch bolst, the fork cap nuts, the steering
stem nut.....everything. The parts are the same that came off the bike in
December and everything fit fine then. I checked the fork tubes for
straightness, and checked the axle for straightness, and everything is true. I
don't get it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dennis</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:40
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Eldo Front End Problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><PRE><FONT face=Arial size=2>,</FONT></PRE>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Try loosing the pinch bolts on the lower trees
and the top ones slightly before putting the wheel in. After the wheel is in
you should be able to get everything straightened out.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paul</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I need help from some of the experienced
loopframe guys. I spent the winter freshing up my '73 Eldo over the
winter. Began the assembly process about 2 weeks ago. Getting
the motor, transmission, drive shaft, rear drive, shocks, etc in
the frame was a breeze. Then came the front wheel. I CANNOT
get my front wheel on the bike correctly. I've been trying
repeatedly since last Saturday with no success. Must've
tried a dozen times. It is a two leading shoe front. When I try
to get the axle thru left fork leg, the brake cover , the wheel itself,
the dished cover on the other side, and then the right fork leg, it clearly
is not in alignment and needs a good deal of force to get the axle
thru. When I do get it thru, the wheel is bound up and will turn only
with a great deal of force. I measured the forks and they are matching
lengths when measured to a fixed point and when measured to the centerline
of the axle holes. I nevertheless took the forks off the bike,
checked everything, and reassembled the forks. Re-measured and they
are identical. When I put the brake shoe assy and the wheel on by
themselves without the dished cover, the axle will go thru nicely and the
wheel will spin freely. When I put the dished cover on with the wheel
and without the brake assy on, it goes together and the wheel spins
freely. When I try to put everything on, the axle is clearly
cocked. I can force it to assemble, but I literally need 3 guys.
One to push up the right end of the axle, one to push down the left side of
the axle, and one to tap in the axle in. Except for putting a new tire
on the bike, I didn't do anything to the wheel. I bought and
installed new soft brake shoes from Mark at MG Classics, and thought it
might be them. Removed them and tried to assemble everything without
the brake shoes installed and the same binding problem occurred. It
does not seem to be a binding caused by things being too tight between the
forks. It seems like an axle misalignment problem, yet I have taken
dimensions of the forks and they are identical lengths. I have
totally exhausted every idea I have, and all I am doing at this point is
nicking up my new paint on my fork legs with this repeated assembly and
disassembly. And, making absolutely no progress on the bike.
It's got nothing to do with the spacer washers, as the wheel won't turn
even with the axle nut finger tight. Sure could use some ideas,
cause I'm stumped.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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