Subject: Re: he killed her!!!
Author: Skip & Jane
Date: Jul 24, 2005, 12:01 PM
Post ID: 1719200236
Sorry to hear about the bike. Sounds like the breather box flapper was stuck
open do to riding at high speeds and pumped the oil out due to high
crankcase pressure. I had this happen on a old eldo which I ran on the
interstate at high speeds. I noticed the bike was losing power and looking
back the rear wheel and bag was covered in oil. I pulled into a station and
shut it off and checked the oil and the dip stick was almost dry. I added 3
qts and tried to start the bike but it was locked up. I got it home fearing
the worse but luckily the only damage was one of the rod bearings melted to
the crank. I was able to get it off and polished the journal, Used some
plastic-gauge and everything was fine.
I sold a 71 Ambo a couple of years ago from a guy in Detroit. He flew down
and took a cab to my house and gave me cash and road it back to Detroit. I
knew the bike was in good shape, but I was afraid he would try to blast down
the interstate at 90 the whole way back and something would go wrong.
I just told him it is a antique bike and to check the oil every time you
fill up and do not push it over 80 for long periods of time. He called 3
days later and said the bike made it with no problems. His only complaint
was that the seat sucked.
When I buy a old bike I tend to not pay anymore for it, knowing that in may
blow up and I will have to part it out. So I figure what the bike is worth
in parts and base that on what I pay for it.
One thing I question is if the bike was running bad and losing power why did
he keep pushing it until it blew ?
Skip & Jane Kologiski
Bird at The Wheel Vintage Motorcycle Stuff
http://home.earthlink.net/~kkologiski/bird.html
Central Florida Reps for the MGNOC (Moto Guzzi National Owners Club).
Fla Guzzi Sitehttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/fl_mgnoc/
Coma Vintage Motorcycle Grouphttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/coma/index.html
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From: "Patrick Hayes" <peha-@comcast.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: he killed her!!!
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andy hill wrote:
| while i realize that i have no obligation to Alex, i still am |
Two answers. One is technical and the other ethical. You already stated
the first. Unless the buyer can identify that you lied about something
and committed fraud.
Now, as to the second, just how badly do you feel? And how do you
balance that against your own economic needs? You have to evaluate what
you told him he was buying. If you said it was old, ripe for
restoration, ignorant of any prior history, look at the photos, then
you're buyer was dumb to race it home instead of carting it home for
thorough examination. You should NOT feel bad. On the other hand, if
you led him to believe it was a competent runner, passed all of your
thorough advance checks, you just did a 300 mile tour, and you advised
him to leave the truck at home, then maybe you should feel bad and part
with some of your profit.
It really is going to depend on how you promoted the vehicle. When I
sell, I go to VERY great lengths to identify, in writing, every wart I
have ever known. Would I feel bad if this happened to me? You bet.
Would I part with some of the money? In my lucrative years maybe, in my
current retired status, no way.
Listen, I have had visitors arrive with badly running bikes on cross
country tours. I ask them if it has points or if the ignition has been
converted to electronic. "I don't know." You mean you just drove
across the nation on a twenty year old moto and you have no idea what
makes your sparks??? Ask me how much sympathy I have for trying to bail
them out with their broken moto. (real case) I'm a nice host, but I
don't suffer fools very well.
Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
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