Subject: Re: Loop Performance
Author: Skip & Jane
Date: May 18, 2005, 7:14 PM
Post ID: 1718888818
A friend of mine put a 5 speed out of a T3 in his Ambo. With the high gear
Ambo rear end it made a nice highway bike. The acceleration went down a
little, but it can cruse 70 at moderate RPM's
If you are looking for a easy way to hop your eldo, with out buying cams,
piston kits, doing head work, carbs, balancing, etc. Buy a tonti frame
lemans and swap the motor. You can sell off what parts you have left over.
I have seen some 80's model Lemans go on ebay for a bargain, in comparison
of what it will coast to build a high HP eldo motor from scratch and you
still have the oil screen oil system.
I bought a wrecked Cali 2 a few years ago and put the motor in my eldo and
sold off what was left. I actually made a few bucks. It turned out to be
the best bike I have ever owned.
Skip & Jane Kologiski
Bird at The Wheel Vintage Motorcycle Stuff
http://home.earthlink.net/~kkologiski/bird.html
Central Florida Reps for the MGNOC (Moto Guzzi National Owners Club).
Fla Guzzi Sitehttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/fl_mgnoc/
Coma Vintage Motorcycle Grouphttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/coma/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Hawkes" <3haw-@bluefrog.biz>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: Loop Performance
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Hey Greg, I have often thought that my Ambo would be a better bike if only
it had one more gear so it would not rev as high at highway speeds. But I
have heard that simply putting a 5 speed tranny on an Ambo doesn't really
render the desired effect of actually having a longer-legged bike. bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Bender [mailto:gr-@thisoldtractor.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:10 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Loop Performance
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Hi Joe,
I think this is a great topic to start. I know that I would really enjoy
learning about performance enhancements. Here are a couple of additional
topics I'd like to add to the pot:
- Dual plugging the heads. Probably not the highest impact change, but
something to consider nonetheless.
- 4 versus 5 speed transmissions (do you have the 850T 5 speed on
Junkyard?) The top gear ratio in both is identical, but the 5 speed
gives you more options.
- Gear sets in the rear drive...especially the idea of moving to
something like a 7/33 ratio. (do you have the 8/35 or the 8/37 gear set
on Junkyard?) The stock Quota ratio is 8/33. When I switched the Quota
to 7/33 for a bit, it became an entirely different bike. Much improved
acceleration and it would get to redline much faster.
- Flywheel lightening/RAM clutch - My assumption is that this will have
the greatest impact when taking off from idle, and that it will have a
lesser impact when rolling-on while at speed??? The negative, of course,
is that the smoothness and characteristic loopness will be sacrificed.
The Dyno test you mentioned is a critical component to all of this as
the human brain often confuses perception as an accurate indication of
sensation/reality. It would be nice to compare facts after each
modification is made, although this would get expensive unless you have
a "hey, good buddy!" connection.
joe jump wrote:
| So what to do? I want more power, especially more torque in the 4000/6000 rpm range. Where to look? Bigger bore, carbs/intake, the heads, the exhaust, the camshaft, and the ingition curve. I want to build an engine that runs! |
Regards,
Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender
Florida MGNOC website
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/fl_mgnoc
Minnesota MGNOC website
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/mn_mgnoc
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