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so far thats the last we've heard on the griso. hell the nevadas were supposed to be here already and there not. just have to wait and see whats happens now with piaggio at the helm...

sam

Kevin Graf <kgr-@midwestpension.com> wrote:
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Thanks for the concern.
Yeah, If there is on thing about the HD is that there's a small parts place
5 min. away from the house. He mainly deals with the older stuff. As for HD
supporting the older stuff, try taking the troublehead to a dealer:-) They
don't want antthing to do with it. As for parts, they have to order it. So I
don't bother unless on the the pals that wrench at a dealer here can get me
a great price on whatever. For the most part I like supporting the small guy
who still looks at the shovel like it should be ridden not sitting in a
museum.
I heard the Griso ETA was late 2005. With the sale of the company, I don't
know if this is still true. I havn't heard. Sam? You know? Any little
birdies talking out there.

Kev

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From: Robert Hawkes [mailto:3haw-@bluefrog.biz]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:52 PM
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Subject: RE: Was Rubber

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Kev,
Glad to get this update, and that you are OK. Never happened upon an HD
myself. Never ridden one. Friend of mine had a HD and worked on it a lot.
He noticed that one thing about HDs are that you can always find a dealer
and get a part for any HD ever made, almost. HD really supports their
bikes, even the old ones, I guess. Too bad there aren't more Guzzi dealers
but then again we all wouldn't be as cool as we are if Guzzi was a popular
as HD or Honda. By the way, here in NY another Guzzi dealer bit the dust.
The guy in Nedrow NY went out of business about a month ago. He still has
Guzzis and parts. He said it would take him a few months to liquidate
everything. Sad.

Yeah, my main screen saver at work is a picture of a Griso. I have called
all the Guzzi dealers I know and no one knows when they are coming out, at
least over the Summer no one knew. Anyway, when, and if, they do come out I
may sell every vehicle I own. I am quite smitten by this bike, so far.
Bob

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From: Kevin Graf [mailto:kgr-@midwestpension.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:45 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Was Rubber

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Rob,

I'm fine. All healed up, just factures of sorts from the crash. As for
the motorcycle, No Guzzi (yet) I did end up buying a 75 shovel a friend
built. Cool bike. Looks about from stock to pan years. Has had it's
problems, I just pulled the stator:-(
But like I said, fun cool bike to ride. I always wanted and old (older)
HD. My pal sold this to me after the accident for a good price at the
time, Now that I've had it, should've been cheaper, but to his credit he
has dumped plenty of $ into it AFTER the sale along with time helping me
stumble though the harley mechanics I have long since forgot.
It has left me stranded, caught on fire and has had even the most
expirianced shovelhead guys around scratching his head. NOTHING like the
Guzzi! But it is one of those things where the more you put into it the
more attached you get. The "wife" dubbed her "lucy" because in her words
"she's red, loud and a pain in the ass" :-)Although not as loud since I
fixed the exhaust... All in all it's an old harley, if a person buys one
with out expecting to pick up a wrench they're fooling themsevles
I bought the HD hoping to still settle with the Guzzi within a
reasonable amount of time. I would like to get the Guzzi back(of
course), and put it back to where it was cosmetically, and now probablly
mechanically from it sitting.. Then I would have the Ambo& the
troublehead. Eventually great back to the anouther Guzzis I'm building.
And also I cannot forget that I have to get the Waterbuffalo going.

Basically everything is on hold until I get my Ambo back. Time is
needed, money is needed and oh I cannot forget a space to work also.....
And of course the is the want of a "new" bike..... GRISO maybe
UMMMMM......

Kev

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:33 PM
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Kevin, OK but how about you, are you all mended up? Also, these things
can
take years sometimes, I don't know about that two year thing though.
And,
did you get another loop or another Guzzi, of any kind, or another
(non-Guzzi) bike? Best, Bob

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:30 AM
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Hey Bob,

Thanks for asking, not much to report. No one's budging on the
settlement price. The insurance co. won't talk to me directly now that I
got a lawyer involved, and it's a real chore trying to get in touch with
the lawyer. I have a feeling something has to break soon.
I couple months ago I left a message for the lawyer, asking why it is
such a P.I.M.A. to get a phone call back. Is it the lawyer fee we agreed
on? NO is it that he is just too busy? He's busy but NO. So I left it at
that and call every couple weeks to leave messages for him.
Being as busy as I can get, I have to admit that some slacking is on my
part, also. The bike itself is sitting in the garage of the owner of the
local Guzzi dealer. They are going to go after the insurance co. for the
storage costs. 1) Winter is right around the corner. 2) Maybe the added
pressure will help the insurance co. to settle.

So that's about it. The waiting game. Trust me you guys will be the
first to know when this egg breaks open.

I did hear something lately if the claim is not settled within 2 years
it could be considered null & void, releasing the ins. co. of all
responsibility. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Kev

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Kevin, Hey, I left Mid Ohio just before you had your uh, problem. Hope
you
are all back together and what about you and a Loop? I haven't kept up
with
your story on this. Bob

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As for the tires, Maxxis was mentioned, just to let you know , buyer
beware, some good, some bad. I put the whitewalls on the ambo. I don't
remember how many miles I put on the damn things but I'll tell you it
wasn't that many at all before the RR tire was shot with wear. Just ask
the folks who saw it at the loopmeet/midohio in 03.

I won't bother with them anymore.

I'll blame the crash on that....
Kev

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:24 AM
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Subject: Was Rubber, Now Kev in Motown

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Hey Corntown,

You know what happened to Kev; the road made a turn & he went
straight. He did a face plant which changed his whole outlook - now he
rides a Troublehead.
Rumor control has it that he's going to a laser clinic to get
the artwork removed, and he traded in his boots for white patent leather

& a turquoise jump suit.

Ya know, that sounds like just the look for Creamsicle-you
ought to consider it.

Your Pal

IndyDi-@aol.com wrote:

Yo to the Gumpy dude with the ChinChin tires....I got about 2,100 on

the

Dreamcycle with two Dunlop white walls....yeah, that would would be

two

fronts
with one spun around backwards for the rear. Lots of tread left, and
tons of
handling all the way to the pegs. But then again, my motor isn't

broken

in yet.
I've heard that a total motor rebuild including new bearings,

bushings,

cylinders, pistons, valves, etc, need a little more lovin that

junkyard

s**t! And,
speaking of junk, what happened to that Kevin dude in Motown? Brett in

Indy

Joe in St Louis
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<DIV>so far thats the last we've heard on the griso. hell the nevadas were supposed to be here already and there not. just have to wait and see whats happens now with piaggio at the helm...</DIV>
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<DIV>sam Kevin Graf <kgr-@midwestpension.com> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your Golden Tee CD ROM on us http://click.topica.com/caacNoDb1dfltb6JvF0a/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the concern. Yeah, If there is on thing about the HD is that there's a small parts place 5 min. away from the house. He mainly deals with the older stuff. As for HD supporting the older stuff, try taking the troublehead to a dealer:-) They don't want antthing to do with it. As for parts, they have to order it. So I don't bother unless on the the pals that wrench at a dealer here can get me a great price on whatever. For the most part I like supporting the small guy who still looks at the shovel like it should be ridden not sitting in a museum. I
heard the Griso ETA was late 2005. With the sale of the company, I don't know if this is still true. I havn't heard. Sam? You know? Any little birdies talking out there. Kev -----Original Message----- From: Robert Hawkes [mailto:3haw-@bluefrog.biz] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:52 PM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Was Rubber Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Amazing Diet Patch The fastest - Easiest way to lose weight! Try it now FREE! http://click.topica.com/caacL7Jb1dfltb63b4qa/MyDietPatches ------------------------------------------------------------------- Kev, Glad to get this update, and that you are OK. Never happened upon an HD myself. Never ridden one. Friend of mine had a HD and worked on it a lot. He noticed that one thing about HDs are that you can always find a dealer and get a part for
any HD ever made, almost. HD really supports their bikes, even the old ones, I guess. Too bad there aren't more Guzzi dealers but then again we all wouldn't be as cool as we are if Guzzi was a popular as HD or Honda. By the way, here in NY another Guzzi dealer bit the dust. The guy in Nedrow NY went out of business about a month ago. He still has Guzzis and parts. He said it would take him a few months to liquidate everything. Sad. Yeah, my main screen saver at work is a picture of a Griso. I have called all the Guzzi dealers I know and no one knows when they are coming out, at least over the Summer no one knew. Anyway, when, and if, they do come out I may sell every vehicle I own. I am quite smitten by this bike, so far. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Graf [mailto:kgr-@midwestpension.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:45 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Was Rubber Your free subscription is
supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Are you serious about buying a NEW car or truck soon? Research before stepping on the car lot and save THOUSANDS! Get NO OBLIGATION price quotes from car dealers in your area. http://click.topica.com/caacKOVb1dfltb7ukc8a/LeadClick ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob, I'm fine. All healed up, just factures of sorts from the crash. As for the motorcycle, No Guzzi (yet) I did end up buying a 75 shovel a friend built. Cool bike. Looks about from stock to pan years. Has had it's problems, I just pulled the stator:-( But like I said, fun cool bike to ride. I always wanted and old (older) HD. My pal sold this to me after the accident for a good price at the time, Now that I've had it, should've been cheaper, but to his credit he has dumped plenty of $ into it AFTER the sale along with time helping
me stumble though the harley mechanics I have long since forgot. It has left me stranded, caught on fire and has had even the most expirianced shovelhead guys around scratching his head. NOTHING like the Guzzi! But it is one of those things where the more you put into it the more attached you get. The "wife" dubbed her "lucy" because in her words "she's red, loud and a pain in the ass" :-)Although not as loud since I fixed the exhaust... All in all it's an old harley, if a person buys one with out expecting to pick up a wrench they're fooling themsevles I bought the HD hoping to still settle with the Guzzi within a reasonable amount of time. I would like to get the Guzzi back(of course), and put it back to where it was cosmetically, and now probablly mechanically from it sitting.. Then I would have the Ambo& the troublehead. Eventually great back to the anouther Guzzis I'm building. And also I cannot forget that I have to get the
Waterbuffalo going. Basically everything is on hold until I get my Ambo back. Time is needed, money is needed and oh I cannot forget a space to work also..... And of course the is the want of a "new" bike..... GRISO maybe UMMMMM...... Kev -----Original Message----- From: Robert Hawkes [mailto:3haw-@bluefrog.biz] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:33 PM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Was Rubber Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Free recipes to get you in shape http://click.topica.com/caacLQeb1dfltb63b4qa/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin, OK but how about you, are you all mended up? Also, these things can take years sometimes, I don't know about that two year thing though. And, did you get another loop or another Guzzi, of any kind, or
another (non-Guzzi) bike? Best, Bob -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Graf [mailto:kgr-@midwestpension.com] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:30 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Was Rubber Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Free recipes to get you in shape http://click.topica.com/caacLQeb1dfltb7ukc8a/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Bob, Thanks for asking, not much to report. No one's budging on the settlement price. The insurance co. won't talk to me directly now that I got a lawyer involved, and it's a real chore trying to get in touch with the lawyer. I have a feeling something has to break soon. I couple months ago I left a message for the lawyer, asking why it is such a P.I.M.A. to get a phone call back. Is it the lawyer fee we agreed on? NO is it
that he is just too busy? He's busy but NO. So I left it at that and call every couple weeks to leave messages for him. Being as busy as I can get, I have to admit that some slacking is on my part, also. The bike itself is sitting in the garage of the owner of the local Guzzi dealer. They are going to go after the insurance co. for the storage costs. 1) Winter is right around the corner. 2) Maybe the added pressure will help the insurance co. to settle. So that's about it. The waiting game. Trust me you guys will be the first to know when this egg breaks open. I did hear something lately if the claim is not settled within 2 years it could be considered null & void, releasing the ins. co. of all responsibility. Anyone know if there is any truth to this? Kev -----Original Message----- From: Robert Hawkes [mailto:3haw-@bluefrog.biz] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:39 AM To:
Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Was Rubber Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Free recipes to get you in shape http://click.topica.com/caacLQeb1dfltb63b4qa/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin, Hey, I left Mid Ohio just before you had your uh, problem. Hope you are all back together and what about you and a Loop? I haven't kept up with your story on this. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Graf [mailto:kgr-@midwestpension.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:53 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: Was Rubber Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Claim your tickets to Universal Orlando
now http://click.topica.com/caacJzlb1dfltb7ukc8a/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- As for the tires, Maxxis was mentioned, just to let you know , buyer beware, some good, some bad. I put the whitewalls on the ambo. I don't remember how many miles I put on the damn things but I'll tell you it wasn't that many at all before the RR tire was shot with wear. Just ask the folks who saw it at the loopmeet/midohio in 03. I won't bother with them anymore. I'll blame the crash on that.... Kev -----Original Message----- From: joe jump [mailto:jum-@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:24 AM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: Was Rubber, Now Kev in Motown Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Claim your tickets to Universal Orlando
now http://click.topica.com/caacJzlb1dfltb63b4qa/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Corntown, You know what happened to Kev; the road made a turn & he went straight. He did a face plant which changed his whole outlook - now he rides a Troublehead. Rumor control has it that he's going to a laser clinic to get the artwork removed, and he traded in his boots for white patent leather & a turquoise jump suit. Ya know, that sounds like just the look for Creamsicle-you ought to consider it. Your Pal IndyDi-@aol.com wrote: > Yo to the Gumpy dude with the ChinChin tires....I got about 2,100 on the > > Dreamcycle with two Dunlop white walls....yeah, that would would be two > fronts > with one spun around backwards for the rear. Lots of tread left, and > tons of > handling all the way to the pegs. But then again, my motor
isn't broken > in yet. > I've heard that a total motor rebuild including new bearings, bushings, > cylinders, pistons, valves, etc, need a little more lovin that junkyard > s**t! And, > speaking of junk, what happened to that Kevin dude in Motown? Brett in > Indy > Joe in St Louis 850T-Powered Ambo Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get 4 Free low-fat, low-carb recipes http://click.topica.com/caacLQbb1dfltb63b4qf/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get 4 Free low-fat, low-carb
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Subject: RE: Was Rubber

Author: sam heath

Date: Oct 27, 2004, 7:07 AM

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