Topica Loopframe_Guzzi Archive


Subject: RE: Now Crank No Start, OH ***

Author: Kevin Graf

Date: Sep 25, 2002, 1:17 PM

Post ID: 1711084534


Won't matter with that gear what cycle the engine's on. Between the paint
marks and the key there's no way to get it f'd up. That's just the one off
the crank. The cam gear is different, this should be aligned with the crank
gear(paint) while at TDC on the left cly. Check this alignment when you get
the crank gear back on. If it all doesnt line up the cam gear is off.
Now you need a degree wheel and a whole lot of "patience"

Once everything is in place(cover, pully and nut) that gear stay's in place.
It should be a slight bitch to slide on the crank, should have to tap it on
gently.

Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Ruff [mailto:klru-@fcc.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:51 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Now Crank No Start, OH ***


Kev is right on, the gear slipped out while the engine is running.
There is no nut holding that center gear on, I believe it is just held
on by the cover. I lined up the center gear mark with that of the
camshaft gear wheel - glad I checked out how it was installed previously
- quick question is what cycle of the motor should it be on or is it
irrelevant so long as the gear marks are aligned? Anyways, I'm sure
this is not the problem with the clacking, that will be ongoing. I'm
looking at 2 folks to take on this project as I am totally out of my
realm here and don't have the time or "Patience" to deal with this.

Keith

Kevin Graf wrote:
 Whoa, hold on there. That gear does run directly off the crank but it
probablly would come off while trying to run the bike without the cover
and
the nut. It's a light press fit onto the shaft isn't it? You'll still
want
to inspect the keyway but....That in itself being the problem don't make
sense.
Kev

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Linn [mailto:paul-@attbi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:20 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Now Crank No Start, OH ***


You probably have a sheared key on the shaft. Hopefully
the gears aren't damaged.

Paul
Richmond, Va
 OH Lordy, think I just found my problem, how bad is it you can let me
know but this AINT GOOD! Looked up front at the timing gears while
cranking, oh s**t! The center gear has moved forward and aint touchin
the top gear OR the low gear, isn't that the crank shaft? Does it go
all the way through to the clutch? Something broke loose and allowed
the whole crankshaft or gear wheel to spin free and nearly out of the
front of the engine. I'm numb...............

Keith


Paul Linn wrote:
 If you remove the plugs and crank her over and you have
compression, then you know the flywheel is still
attached. If it wasn't the bike would never start and
you would also hear the faster whine of the starter just
spinning on nothing. Pull on the gear attached to the
cam and check it for excessive movement. Did the valves
move at all when you spun the motor?

Paul
Richmond, Va
 Perhaps this is better for diagnostics. Went out and checked the
valves
 
 
 
were operating correctly. Both sides were good. Fired her up with
valve covers off to verify the noise was not coming from the valves,
and
 
 
 
they operated fine, noise was from either engine internal, or
perhaps
 
 
 
 the flywheel area as some indicated. She stalled out and when I
tried
 
 
 
 to start her back up, she cranks freely and won't start, I think
something broke loose? Perhaps the flywheel as some indicated?
Will
 
 
 
 pull the starter next to see if the flywheel is the culprit. I put
her
 
 
 in gear and the rear wheel turns as I crank, does that mean the
starter
 
 
 is indeed engaging but something else is shot? Distributor perhaps?

Help!

Keith Ruff
71 Police Ambassador - NJ



Keith Ruff
71 Police Ambassador - NJ



Keith Ruff
71 Police Ambassador - NJ

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