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Subject: Re: Countersteering & Eldos

Author: Bill Berry

Date: Sep 20, 2002, 9:29 PM

Post ID: 1711054518

Shifting your weight onto the butt cheek on the side
you're turning towards helps a lot. Just a very mild
version of what those guys that hang off their bikes are
doing. Remember, its not countersteering or wieght shift,
but countersteering AND weight shift. I crossed the
yellows a few time too 'till I learned this. Buy
"Proficient Motrocycling" by David Hough...killer book
with great insight and explanations, especially if you
don't have a lot of years under your belt. Hell, it's
good for all skill levels!
Hope this helps!
Chris in NC

On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:45:46 -0400
Bruce Giller <bgil-@mitre.org> wrote:
 I guess I'd better head on out to the UMd campus on a
Sunday and
practice leaning into the curves on one of their empty
parking lots.
I'm thinking that when I leaned to the opposite side, it
gave me more
leverage to push down on the police bars. I'll just have
to find a
different way to push on them.

On more than one occasion I over cooked a tight right
hander and ended
up crossing the yellow line. Luckily no one was in the
left lane at the time.

Bruce

Martin Cooke wrote:
 
i'd say countersteering an eldo is essential on tight
european roads. they
steer soooo slowly without, i'd end up in a hedge!

cookie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Willcox, John" <John.W-@TIMET.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:22 PM
Subject: RE: Countersteering & Eldos

 Bruce sez:

 
 But I did find that if I pivoted a waist things
worked better. I.E. I
 
 
 would pivot my upper body to the left in a right
hand turn.
 
Bruce,

While I am NOT a MSF instructor, nor do I play one on
TV, I do have
 a few comments. First, as the books say, this is
usually for slower
 turns. It is also appropriate for very quick swerves,
as long as you are
 nowhere near your traction limits on the turn. The
whole point of
 keeping your body in line with the bike (or even
leaning your body
 into the turn, ala road racers) is to let you actually
lean the bike
 LESS, which keeps more tread profile in contact with
the pavement.
 While it DOES sometimes feel more natural not to do
this, it would
 probably be better for you to get used to the feeling
of leaning your
 body into the curve as you countersteer. Especially
given that the
 Eldos are not known for there ability to maintain an
extreme lean
 angle! All of this is just my opinion, of course, and
you should ride
 in whatever fashion makes you happy!!

john in Denver




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