Subject: Re: Crummy Running
Author: Martin Cooke
Date: Jul 3, 2001, 4:54 AM
Post ID: 1707349930
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Maybe it's a coincidence that it played up after you washed it?=20
Runs well at high RPM, rough at low RPM: I'd check for blockage in jets =
or spark plugs/leads/HT breakdown.
cookie
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dennis Jones=20
To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: Crummy Running
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Ian,
Another thing I considered. Unlikely, though. While I hosed down the =
bike, it was mostly the motor/trans/rear drive that I hit with the hose. =
I didn't spray the bodywork parts with the hose. Still, anything's =
possible. I'm not sure why, though, the bike would run strongly at high =
rpm, and not at low rpm if it was a fuel issue, so I kind of ruled that =
out as I worked thru possibilities. If anyone thinks this still could =
be an issue, heck I'll drain the tank and use it for lawnmower gas.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ian Adkins=20
To: Loopfram-@topica.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: Crummy Running
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Dennis,
Maybe water in the gas?
I remember once my truck started running rough all of a sudden. I =
never had a problem before this. I drove for about 50 miles (I was on a =
trip at the time) with the thing not wanting to run and running rough. I =
finally added some alcohol (rubbing type available at Wally Mart and =
drug stores). Anyways....after putting the stuff in I drove the truck =
for about two miles.....all of a sudden the truck shook once and ran =
perfectly after that.
What I figured was that one of the tanks was fairly empty. It had =
been that way for a while. and I suspect there was some condesation that =
had formed. Anyways...I filled the tank and while I was driving I =
switched tanks and the problem started soon after that.
Pour about an ounce of rubbing alcohol into the tank and run the =
bike. If the problem is water it will be solved after a short ride. If =
not you can then move onto other thoughts.
Good luck...and sorry to make this so long :-)
...Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Jones <dbjo-@cobweb.net>
To: Loopfram-@topica.com <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Date: July 2, 2001 9:45 PM
Subject: Crummy Running
Eldo won't run right. Here's what I know. Rode the Eldo round =
trip to and from the Western NY Rally. Ran perfectly, not so much as a =
hiccup. Got it home and washed it good of those pesky Western New York =
bugs. Used S100 and a hose as I have done often in the past. Polished =
it and parked it. Because of family obligations, and a need to ride =
some of my other bikes, the Eldo sat til tonight. It was difficult to =
start. Unusual. Rode off, and it didn't want to idle at stop =
signs/traffic lights, etc. Rode it for mebbe 15 minutes. Would stall =
if rpm weren't kept at 2,500 or more. Engaging the clutch resulted in =
feeble performance. Lots of slippage of the clutch to keep it from =
stalling. Would run rough and bike would shake until I gave it lots of =
throttle and got rpms up. Would then clean up and run strongly to =
redline, but returning to below 4,000 rpm would start the symptoms all =
over again.
I am getting spark at the plugs. The spark plug wires & caps are =
dry and firmly attached. Ditto coil. Gas in the tank. Checked float =
bowls. Carbs are getting gasoline. Points adjusted properly. Checked =
the airbox, and even ran it without the airbox. Same result.
Other than the bike wash, the bike was running PERFECTLY, and had =
run perfectly for 800 miles, before I parked it.
Any suggestions, other than to never wash the bike again?
D.J.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Maybe it's a coincidence that it =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Runs well at high RPM, rough at low =
RPM: I'd=20
check for blockage in jets or spark plugs/leads/HT =
breakdown.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">cookie</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 03, 2001 =
12:19=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Crummy =
Running</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ian,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another thing I considered. =
Unlikely,=20
though. While I hosed down the bike, it was mostly the =
motor/trans/rear=20
drive that I hit with the hose. I didn't spray the bodywork =
parts with=20
the hose. Still, anything's possible. I'm not sure why, =
though,=20
the bike would run strongly at high rpm, and not at low rpm if it was =
a fuel=20
issue, so I kind of ruled that out as I worked thru =
possibilities. If=20
anyone thinks this still could be an issue, heck I'll drain the tank =
and use=20
it for lawnmower gas.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dennis</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3-@gte.net href=3D"mailto:adk-@gte.net">Ian =
Adkins</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DLoop-@topica.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 03, 2001 =
12:44=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Crummy =
Running</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>Dennis,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>Maybe water in the gas?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier color=3D#000000>I remember once my truck =
started=20
running rough all of a sudden. I never had a problem before this. I =
drove=20
for about 50 miles (I was on a trip at the time) with the thing not =
wanting=20
to run and running rough. I finally added some alcohol (rubbing type =
available at Wally Mart and drug stores). Anyways....after putting =
the stuff=20
in I drove the truck for about two miles.....all of a sudden the =
truck shook=20
once and ran perfectly after that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier color=3D#000000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>What I figured was that one of the tanks =
was fairly=20
empty. It had been that way for a while. and I suspect there was =
some=20
condesation that had formed. Anyways...I filled the tank and while I =
was=20
driving I switched tanks and the problem started soon after=20
that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>Pour about an ounce of rubbing alcohol =
into the tank=20
and run the bike. If the problem is water it will be solved after a =
short=20
ride. If not you can then move onto other thoughts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>Good luck...and sorry to make this so long =
:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DCourier>...Ian</FONT></DIV>
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Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20
</B>Dennis Jones <<A=20
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</B><A=20
href=3D"mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A>=
=20
<<A=20
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Running<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eldo won't run right. =
Here's what I=20
know. Rode the Eldo round trip to and from the Western NY=20
Rally. Ran perfectly, not so much as a hiccup. Got it =
home and=20
washed it good of those pesky Western New York bugs. Used =
S100 and a=20
hose as I have done often in the past. Polished it and =
parked=20
it. Because of family obligations, and a need to ride some =
of my=20
other bikes, the Eldo sat til tonight. It was difficult to=20
start. Unusual. Rode off, and it didn't want to idle =
at stop=20
signs/traffic lights, etc. Rode it for mebbe 15 =
minutes. Would=20
stall if rpm weren't kept at 2,500 or more. Engaging the =
clutch=20
resulted in feeble performance. Lots of slippage of the =
clutch to=20
keep it from stalling. Would run rough and bike would shake =
until I=20
gave it lots of throttle and got rpms up. Would then clean =
up and=20
run strongly to redline, but returning to below 4,000 rpm would =
start the=20
symptoms all over again.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am getting spark at the =
plugs. The=20
spark plug wires & caps are dry and firmly attached. =
Ditto=20
coil. Gas in the tank. Checked float bowls. =
Carbs=20
are getting gasoline. Points adjusted =
properly. Checked=20
the airbox, and even ran it without the airbox. Same=20
result.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Other than the bike wash, the =
bike was=20
running PERFECTLY, and had run perfectly for 800 miles, before I =
parked=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any suggestions, other than to =
never wash the=20
bike again?</FONT></DIV>
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