Subject: RE: New Guzzis, retro loopframes and Ippogriffos
Author: Kevin Graf
Date: Jun 18, 2001, 8:52 AM
Post ID: 1707160620
It is a fine line, isn't it? On one hand we all want to see Guzzi succeed
because we love the "family", but we don't want them to get too popular,
that will make Guzzi lose a big part of why we love em'.
If I had to choose, I'll be happy right wear I'm at and hope Aprilla doesn't
sacrifice the pride of the Co. and us, with stupid gimmicks. I don't want
every a#@h&le out there riding one of these and cheapening my love and
pride(AKA H-D).
Look at Indian (Aftermarket crap)& Triumph esp. Triumph with they're "retro"
bikes. I rode a "new" Bonneville last week. Nice bike, I wouldn't buy one
though. Sure it might look old school but it ain't. Any jackass can buy one
and not have to worry about breaking down, even let they're maintenance go
on it. Who Cares? It'll run. But hey it looks cool, Eh gotta pay the piper
baby, gotta pay the piper. I don't want Guzzi to fall into that, it's the
21st century, build something original for the times, go forward not
backward like everyone else.
Leave the loopframes to us, We'll take care of 'em for Guzzi.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Zink [mailto:rzi-@co.alameda.ca.us]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: New Guzzis, retro loopframes and Ippogriffos
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I am actually not sure that the retro loopframe styling would sell
more bikes. We talk like it would and are always grumbling about bringing
back the Eldo (I for one have done it myself) but given the reality I don't
think I would plop down the $12-15 grand to have a 2002 idea of what an Eldo
should be. Some of my Ambassador's appeal and character comes from it being
a 30 year old antique. And as far a selling a zillion of them new Stones, I
think selling just enough to keep Aprillia from looking for someone to
unload them on is fine. I for one as an old time Ducati lover hate what has
happened to them (Ducati) in the last 5 years with boutiques and designer
golf bags and such ;-(. I came to Moto Guzzi because of it's 'esoteric'
nature.
Of course all of this is my opinion and your mileage may vary, but I will
agree with Ian who said "While we are looking for the retro Eldo or a
Ippogriffo (which had the coolest name and paint scheme in my opinion...even
if Frank Wedge didn't like it! :-) ) the new riders are looking for
something else". I would seriously be looking at an Ippogriffo with a 'hot
rod' motor if they were available. That is what I would like to see Guzzi
make.
Rich
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From: Jay Williams [SMTP:cj7-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:24 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: New Guzzis
.
I agree with Ian that styling reminiscent of the loopframes would
sell more
bikes.
But, I hope The Stone catches on big time and they sell a zillion of
'em.
Whatever keeps Guzzi viable in North America is a good thing.
Jay
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