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Subject: Re: re torquing heads (tip for V700 and early Ambos)

Author: Dave Otis

Date: Jan 21, 2001, 6:59 AM

Post ID: 1705026272

The solution to this is SEVERAL bikes, multiple loopframes, so if one has a
problem you jump on another, and a later model jump on and go machine (an
EV in my case) simple!




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Charlie,
Thanks for writing and I live in Rochester, NY. I bought my Ambo from Sport
Cycle last year at this time. The bike never ran well from the day I got it.
The dealer just offered to me today to buy it back for what I paid for it if
I buy a v65sp at his shop. I just don't know. I know I love the look of
the Ambo, I love old bikes in general. I love the loping gait of the Ambo.
I love the way it pratically tears out from under me in 2nd gear and I have
never had the attention from strangers that I get with this bike. People
come up and are all friendly when I'm on the Ambo. The thing is dripping
with character. So, there is a side to me that does not want to ever get
rid of it. It's simply that it I wanted a bike that I could get on an go
with not something that needed tender loving care. I guess you can't have
character and a jump-'n-go-bike. Thanks again, your opinions are welcome.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Mullendore <C.D.Mul-@worldnet.att.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: re torquing heads (tip for V700 and early Ambos)


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Hi Bob,
Sorry your experience hasn't been a pleasant one. I consider myself lucky
simply because this has been the most enjoyable Guzzi I've ever owned (and
I've
 owned six Tonti framed bikes - two bought new). Mine has been very
reliable, especially for a 31 yr. old bike with 50k miles on it. Initially
it had some
 minor bugs that needed attention, the previous owner had only put 3k miles
on in 13 years. I done several 400 mile days on it and wouldn't hesitate to
ride it
 just about anywhere. I am of the opinion that any vehicle (especially an
Italian one) is only as good as it's mechanic. I happen to have grown up in
my
 father's machine/welding shop and was exposed to several great "shade
tree" mechanics as a youth. As a result of this and further education, I've
become a
 fairly good mechanic. This is not to call anyones mechanical abilities in
to question, just the logical explanation for my success with my vehicles. I
 sincerely hope that you will continue to try and work out whatever
problems yours may have. This list is the best place to go for advice, but
"phone fixing"
 only goes so far. If you don't feel confident in your mechanical skills,
find a good shop to do the work - Moto Guzzi Classics, Cycle Garden, etc.
Where do
 you live? List members may be able to help in person. As Red Green says
"We're all in this together.":-)
 
Charlie
'69 & (2)'71 Ambos

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Charlie,
My name is Bob and I own a 1969 Ambo 750cc. You said in your e-mail "if
you
 
 are lucky enough to own one of these". Ever since I bought my Ambo I
have
 
 had problems. I wanted a neat-old-bike and what I got was
'unreliability'.
 
 I am seriously thinking of trading it in. Why do you consider yourself
lucky wit this bike? Thanks, Bob Hawkes
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Mullendore <C.D.Mul-@worldnet.att.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: re torquing heads (tip for V700 and early Ambos)

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Hi Ian and All,
I had some seepage from the cylinder head area on my early '69
Ambassador.
 
 I
 thought it was the headgasket, but it turned out to be be the o-ring
used
 
 to
 seal the long "nut" opposite the sparkplug. It still leaked even after
I
 
 
 replaced the o-ring, tried sealer(s) and everything else that was
recommended
 but nothing worked. The fix I finally came up with was to machine
another
 
 o-ring
 groove just below the first and install a second o-ring. So far, so
good!
 
 Oil
 seepage from this area is usually easy to spot - it will run down the
"channel"
 between the top and bottom cylinder head nuts, drip onto the plug
wire,
 
 then fly
 back and decorate your saddlebags (if so fitted). Just something to
keep
 
 in mind
 if you're lucky enough to own one of these and are experiencing oil
leakage.
 
Charlie

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Tim,

Interesting that you mention that. I retorqued the heads on my 69
Ambo
 
 and
 
 afterwards I had some seepage of oil from the heads. Only thing is
that
 
 I
 
 can't remember if it was leaking before.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <tf-@gte.net>
To: Loopfram-@topica.com <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Date: January 19, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: re torquing heads

 Ian....

I have limited experience at best compared to most of the people on
the
 
 
 
 
 list, but I was told by my local dealer to back off, then re-torque
the
 
 
 
 
 heads on my Eldo. Did as instructed, and was rewarded with a new
oil
 
 leak.
 
 
 Dealer then told me that was common on the older bikes, and it was
better
 
 
 just to check the torque without backing off. Can cause the
o-rings to
 
 
 
 
 leak. Gee thanks Mr. Dealer.

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David J. Otis
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