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Subject: Re: loop pan as sump extender?

Author: Skip & Jane

Date: May 5, 2005, 5:36 PM

Post ID: 1718819647


Those are designed for the later oil filter motors, I think you would have
to cut off the oil passage bosses. Looks like they would get in the way of
the oil screen.

Skip & Jane Kologiski
Bird at The Wheel Vintage Motorcycle Stuff
http://home.earthlink.net/~kkologiski/bird.html
Central Florida Reps for the MGNOC (Moto Guzzi National Owners Club).
Fla Guzzi Sitehttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/fl_mgnoc/
Coma Vintage Motorcycle Grouphttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/coma/index.html
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From: "Custom Guzzi" <paul-@comcast.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: loop pan as sump extender?


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Why not just get the sump spacer from MG Cycle
http://www.mgcycle.com/externals.htmland then figure out a way to extend
the oil pickup?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Bender [mailto:gr-@thisoldtractor.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:45 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: loop pan as sump extender?


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Very interesting...I really appreaciate being able to bounce ideas
around in this forum.

Hacksaw wrote:
 
Good points John. Thanks.
After posting I walked out to our lead machinist and began the
discussion of this endeavor. He voiced the same concern that the wall
thickness of the pan would not be such to leave a surface wide enough
for a good gasket seal.
He must also be aware of the welding issues you speak of because when I
asked "Well could you just weld the extender onto my pan?" He just
started chuckling as he turned to walk off.
I'm still going to look at a pump and bring a pan in tomorrow and see.
We should be able to tell by gauging the walls and such.
I'll keep posting what I find.
Hacksaw


John Chicoine wrote:
 Greg:

I don't think it will work if you plan to gasket them together
because
of a lack of sealing surface area between the machined pan and the stock

 
 
gasket flange.

If you took two pans and machined the gasket flange off one and the
bottom off the other you may be able to weld them together. I say may,
because I've tried to have valve covers welded and the oil that's
impregnated them made it impossible to get a good weld free of voids.

John C.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Bender" <gr-@thisoldtractor.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:11 PM
Subject: loop pan as sump extender?


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Skip and I were enjoying a Guinness or two with several other
classic
bike owners (and a lot of HD owners) last night at the "Quaker Steak and

 
 

Lube" restaurant and hang-out. The conversation was filled with
tales of


all the bikes the Indian Motorcycle Company rebadged and brought
into
the country up into 70's and how we all kind of wanted to have a 200cc
or less classic bike ride every once in a while (Bantams, Stornellos,
etc.). The subject eventually turned to Guzzis and then to loops and
then to my quest for a sump extender.

So, Skip so simply states, "Why don't you just cut the bottom off a
loop


oil pan and use it as an extender?"

It was just then that I had one of those "Why didn't I think of
that?"
moments :>

Seems simple enough to me and a spare pan seems easy enough to
obtain
(Skip even has one at the ready for me). Although I don't have inside
measurements of a pan, they look fairly shallow from the outside. Maybe
I could get 3/4" to 1" of an extension? Not extreme, but probably a
definite help. And not too low as to become a concern when riding over
speed bumps, etc (Thanks for the heads up on that, Gordon and Skip).
Then, all I'd need to do is extend the pick up a wee bit lower and get
some longer bolts.

Any thoughts on this approach?

Regards,

Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender

Florida MGNOC websitehttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/fl_mgnoc

Minnesota MGNOC websitehttp://www.thisoldtractor.com/mn_mgnoc

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Regards,

Greg Bender
1971 Ambassador
2000 Quota
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/gtbender

Florida MGNOC website
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Minnesota MGNOC website
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