Subject: Re: Gas in oil/Cleaning jets
Author: Robert Hawkes
Date: Oct 1, 2003, 3:13 PM
Post ID: 1714719990
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Clifton - I think you are right to avoid 'reaming' jets. I think they are cheap enough to install new ones. Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: Clifton L. Smith
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: Gas in oil/Cleaning jets
When I got my V7-Special, the jets had been "cleaned" with a wire, which widened the jets and resulted in rich running. I had to replace the jets. Before using a wire, I would try compressed air to clean them. You might also try a local small engine or cycle shop for the wire tools used for cleaning jets. The tools are properly sized and less likely to ream the jets wider.
If I'm wrong about this advice, someone please correct me.
CS
-----Original Message-----
From: andy hill [mailto:alh-@adelphia.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Re: Gas in oil & fishtails
Jay-
prolly, your pilot [idle] jets are plugged, and the bike is running on the mains, only. [super-rich at low rpm's]. ya can soak 'em in a small pan of carb cleaner, and then carefully work a strand of copper wire thru the hole to clear the crud away. 10-4 on the petcocks- saw it happen on a yamaha 650 recently.
Donny-
ya can make your own reducers for the fishtails or order a set from good 'ol jc whitney [they're only about $5.00 ea.] if these are h.d. items, you'll also have to modify your centerstand- the 'ears' will hit on the larger muffs, and your stand will be too close to the ground.
andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Stallings
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: Gas in oil
Last week I put my bike up and did not turn the gas taps off. A couple of days later I went to ride it and noticed a ton of gas had leaked out of the carbs. I checked the oil before starting the bike and it was the pan full of gas. So I changed the oil out. I have heard this could happen but it seems like I use to be able to leave the gas taps on and not have any problems.
I am also still having problems maintaining an idle and the bike seems to bog down (engine sounds lower and very slowly accelerates - even accelerates better when letting a little throtle off) when accelerating past 60 mph. I have mentioned this before but I have still not taken the carbs apart to see what is going on. I am planning on going through them ASAP, I have the Premier Handbook should this be a good enough guide for a first timer? What parts should I order - just the gasket kit from mgcycle? Any other tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Clifton - I think you are right to avoid 'reaming'
jets. I think they are cheap enough to install new ones.
Bob</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=C-@Earnhart2.com href="mailto:Clif-@Earnhart2.com">Clifton L.
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Loopf-@topica.com
href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Gas in oil/Cleaning
jets</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN>When I got my V7-Special, the jets had been �cleaned� with a wire,
which widened the jets and resulted in rich running.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I had to replace the jets.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Before using a wire, I would try
compressed air to clean them.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You
might also try a local small engine or cycle shop for the wire tools used for
cleaning jets.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The tools are
properly sized and less likely to ream the jets
wider.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN>If I'm wrong about this advice, someone please correct
me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN>CS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> andy hill
[mailto:alh-@adelphia.net<SPAN class=GramE>] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent</SPAN></B></SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year="2003"
Day="1" Month="10"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Wednesday, October 01,
2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="17" Hour="8"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:17
AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Loopfram-@topica.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Gas in oil &
fishtails</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jay-</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> prolly, your pilot [idle]
jets are plugged, and the bike is running on the mains, only. [super-rich at
low rpm's]. ya can soak 'em in a small pan of carb cleaner, and then carefully
work a strand of copper wire thru the hole to clear the crud away. 10-4 on the
petcocks- saw it happen on a yamaha 650
recently.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Donny-</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> ya can make your own
reducers for the fishtails or order a set from good 'ol jc whitney [they're
only about $5.00 ea.] if these are h.d. items, you'll also have to modify your
centerstand- the 'ears' will hit on the larger muffs, and your stand will be
too close to the ground.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">andy</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message -----
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=sta-@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:stalli-@sbcglobal.net">Jason Stallings</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=Loopf-@topica.com
href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopfram-@topica.com</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year="2003" Day="1" Month="10"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Wednesday, October
01, 2003</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time
Minute="13" Hour="0"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">12:13
AM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Gas in
oil<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Last week I put my bike up and did not
turn the gas taps off. A couple of days later I went to ride it and
noticed a ton of gas had leaked out of the carbs. I checked the oil
before starting the bike and it was the pan full of gas. So I changed
the oil out. I have heard this could happen but it seems like I use to
be able to leave the gas taps on and not have any problems.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am also still having problems
maintaining an idle and the bike seems to bog down (engine sounds lower and
very slowly accelerates - even accelerates better when letting a little
throtle off) when accelerating past 60 mph. I have
mentioned this before but I have still not taken the carbs apart to see what
is going on. I am planning on going through them ASAP, I have the
Premier Handbook should this be a good enough guide for a first timer?
What parts should I order - just the gasket kit from mgcycle? Any other tips
or suggestions would be
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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