| i was agreeing wholeheartedly, right up to the bit about filing the mating surfaces (i think) of the big end eye. the word OVAL sprang unbidden to my lips.
then i thought it was probably better than how alfa (or indeed guzzi) would have made irt in the first place and i'm sure it works fine.
cookie
ps. i was at the guzzi factory last week, and was shocked to find they have a fair number of newish CNC machines on the shop floor like ducati. whatever happened to Luigi & his hammer & chisel eh? maybe big end eyes are round now.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Giller" <bgil-@mitre.org> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: Re: To Teardown or Not Teardown?
| Keith, Last winter I rebuilt the 4 cylinder engine from my '73 Alfa Romeo GTV. The engine was stripped down to the carcass and then reassembled. This was my 1st engine rebuild of any kind - the most intricate operation before has been to remove heads and cylinders (cars and bikes). And the bloody thing actually ran after installing it back in the car - I almost fell over when it cranked over and started.
Being that this was my first rebuild, I got help from the Alfa-digest members, shop manuals, and a local Alfa mech. where I bought parts. But all the assembly work was done by me in my garage - a machine shop did the work head and crank/rod/piston/clutch balancing. I did have to redo a few steps (several times, mind you) and ruined more than one seal trying to install it.
But I took my time, put all the removed parts into zip-lock bags with enclosed notes, measured everything about 5 times to make sure I got it right, and asked lots of questions. Even got to buy some new tools - an engine stand, for one. Not rushing things seemed to help the most.
It looks like a big job but if you just break it down into small steps, then it isn't all that imposing. If you don't know how to tell if the bearings are shot, just zip a note to the list and ask - my answer is just replace them since I believe that they are plain bearings (not ball or roller). A machine shop can measure the crank, rods, pistons for you; you give them the specs for them to work from.
Get the shop manual for your ambo and start reading. Guzziology is great for indicating where upgrades can be applied. And the Loopframe list members can answer all the rest of your questions....or know where to get them.
My biggest discovery is that it just isn't rocket science - you might put a scratch somewhere that doesn't help matters but it doesn't mean that the scratch will prevent the engine from working. Example: after getting my parts back from balancing, I discovered that the rod's big ends were too 'fat' and needed to be reduced by about .003". Sent a note off to the alfa-digest and an engine rebuilder said that he used to hand file them to spec (until he got a machine to do the work). That is exactly what I did - filed only on one side and measured with a micrometer until correct (then polished them a bit to look nice). Found out that the original machine work from the factory didn't have the two sides perfectly parallel anyway....
Bruce
'72 Eldo
Keith Ruff wrote:
| Spoke with Andy last eve and may hook up with him sometime as he is in NJ frequently. Tried for the past few days to contact Dave Otis and have not head back from him, so I am guessing he is either busy or not interested in taking on the project. Figured I will start looking at backup plans until I hear from Dave.
My biggest fear with tearing down the motor is not messing anything up along the way, i.e., scratching surfaces like the cylinder walls, and also, knowing what I am looking for as far as bad parts. I don't have a clue how to know the bearings are shot, if the crank needs to be machined, etc... so it would be like disassembling and not knowing what to do from there. Also don't have any special tools that may be needed to disassemble/re-assemble. How do you get the pistons back into the cylinders without scratching the walls, should any upgrades/mods be done while I am in there, can the piston heads and valve stems be de=carbonized, etc. etc. etc. Would like to venture into this but envision a motor in pieces on the floor with no clue what to do.
What should I do? Would love to have someone experienced stay at my house for a good week to assist in the teardown, diagnosis, repair, and re-assembly, have offered this to Andy but not sure if he has the time to stay here a few days or if that is enough time to do this work.
Keith Ruff 71 Police Ambassador - NJ |
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