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Subject: Re: GEO alternator mod

Author: Scott Larson

Date: Oct 7, 2002, 9:12 AM

Post ID: 1711159306


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You can buy a good used alternator on Ebay for 10$ any day of the week. Keep bidding on them until you get one. I bought 3 and used one for my 48 Ferguson tractor, one for my Eldorado and one for a spare. Look for the ones with the pulley already installed and then buy a belt to fit.
Tip: try searching for Alternater first. You would be surprised to see how many people cannot spell alternator. And they dont get any bids!
Allan wrote:I'm sorry no pics. I don't have a dig cam or a scanner. Making the mounting block was not to bad. But I had to make the pulley also. It took me a couple of tries before it came out right. I had read on the list that the alternator came with a pulley that could be used but the only model i could find had a serpintene belt pulley. My Eldo is still pretty ugly. I try to fix a little bit every month as finances allow. If you could find out from the list the model alternator that has a v-belt pulley the job would be easy and relatively quick. Beware the alternator is 180$+ and the first thing you do is saw a mounting ear off of it. Great incentive for finishing the job because there is no returning it. Allan 72 eldo running but ugly ----- Original Message -----From: thomas halchukSent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:19 PMTo: Loopfram-@topica.comSubject: Re: Patience is Dead Allan I'm interested in the GEO alternator mod. Do you have any pics? Tom in Boston----- Original Message ----- From: Allan To: Loopframe_Guzzi Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:30 PMSubject: Re: Patience is Dead
Hi, When I replaced the front main seal on my Eldo, I just put the original guzzi wrench on the nut and hit it with a hammer. It came right off no problems. As a help to you If you need them I have a set of gears in my junk pile I would be willing to give you. My eldo is back on the road finally as the Geo Metro alternater is working now. Imagine the battery charging while at an idle. If anyone else is forced into this mod I will give details. Allan72 Eldorado ----- Original Message -----From: Greg FieldSent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:32 PMTo: Loopfram-@topica.comSubject: Re: Patience is Dead If you can start it with the electric starter, then the flywheel bolts
are not likely the problem (because then the starter would only spin the
flywheel).

I think you are on the right track looking in the timing chest. You may
have chipped a gear tooth.

GF

On Sunday, September 22, 2002, at 01:04 AM, Martin Cooke wrote:

 the reason you can't usually get the nut off is cos the crank moves
lessening the initial torque you can apply on nut.

get a piece of flat steel bar & drill it so it slips over the large nut
(that's the tricky bit) then drill 3 more small hole to line up with
the M6
holes that mount the generator pulley. bolt it on, & use socket &
breaker
bar to remove nut.

alternatively, do what i did the first time: put the motor in the car &
drive it to the local tyre fitters & have them remove nut with a windy
gun.

cookie


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Ruff" <klru-@fcc.net>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: Patience is Dead


 Appreciate the vote of confidence and support Tom. Spoke with Dave
Otis
this morning and let him hear the racket via phone, his response was
"She sure does sound sick!", I agreed. I'm too far into this project
now to give up, so I will push on. Here's the next question:

From what Dave I can tell, the sound is seems to be coming from the
timing chest. I follow the steps on how to get the timing chest cover
off, but man is that crank bolt on there tight! Any advice on how to
get it off w/o a compressor and air gun? I got a good grip on it by
taking off the lower pulley wheel (inner and outer 1/2) and belt, and
was gripping the cylinydrical part behind the bolt with channel locks,
and tried with all my might to break the nut loose, but couldn't do it.
I'll ask Cam to give me a hand as perhaps with 2 hands and an extension
or a longer 1/2" drive socket wrench will get that sucker to crack!
Any
advice on this, has anyone been able to crack this nut without power
tools and how? I think the mystery is hiding behind that timing chest
cover. BTW, that is the seal that started leaking also, and remember
that gen belt that burnt up on me? Perhaps this is all related? Where
are the flywheel bolts that a few of you mentioned being toasted? Same
area?

Thanx for the help again!!

Keith Ruff
71 Police Ambassador - NJ

Arizona Kid wrote:
 
Keith Ruff wrote:
! The never ending Patience saga
 continues.......

Keith Ruff
71 Police Ambassador - NJ


Sorry to hear that, buddy. But, like we said before, letting a bike
sit
 
 
 ain't good for it. I was hoping for you that it was just a spun
bearing,
 
 
 
an easy fix.

Don't loose faith, partner. You're not in this alone! You got a great
bunch of folks here that will help you through this.

DO NOT SELL PATIENCE!!!!

We will be here for ya, buddy!!!



The 'Arizona Kid'

Tom Short
AZ MGNOC Rep
Phoenix, AZ






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<P>You can buy a good used alternator on Ebay for 10$ any day of the week. Keep bidding on them until you get one. I bought 3 and used one for my 48 Ferguson tractor, one for my Eldorado and one for a spare. Look for the ones with the pulley already installed and then buy a belt to fit.
<P>Tip: try searching for Alternater first. You would be surprised to see how many people cannot spell alternator. And they dont get any bids!
<P> <B><I>Allan <MUT-@MSN.COM></I></B>wrote:
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<DIV>I'm sorry no pics. I don't have a dig cam or a scanner. Making the mounting block was not to bad. But I had to make the pulley also. It took me a couple of tries before it came out right. I had read on the list that the alternator came with a pulley that could be used but the only model i could find had a serpintene belt pulley. My Eldo is still pretty ugly. I try to fix a little bit every month as finances allow. If you could find out from the list the model alternator that has a v-belt pulley the job would be easy and relatively quick. Beware the alternator is 180$+ and the first thing you do is saw a mounting ear off of it. Great incentive for finishing the job because there is no returning it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Allan </DIV>
<DIV>72 eldo running but ugly</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> thomas halchuk</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 06, 2002 11:19 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Loopfram-@topica.com</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Patience is Dead</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Allan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>I'm interested in the GEO alternator mod.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Do you have any pics?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Tom in Boston</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=-@msn.com href="mailto:mut-@msn.com">Allan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Loopf-@topica.com href="mailto:Loopfram-@topica.com">Loopframe_Guzzi</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Patience is Dead</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When I replaced the front main seal on my Eldo, I just put the original guzzi wrench on the nut and hit it with a hammer. It came right off no problems. As a help to you If you need them I have a set of gears in my junk pile I would be willing to give you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My eldo is back on the road finally as the Geo Metro alternater is working now. Imagine the battery charging while at an idle. If anyone else is forced into this mod I will give details.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Allan</DIV>
<DIV>72 Eldorado</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Greg Field</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:32 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Loopfram-@topica.com</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Patience is Dead</DIV>
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