Subject: Re: Eldovert
Author: Scott Larson
Date: Mar 15, 2002, 2:33 PM
Post ID: 1709859137
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You can get an adapter from Teo Lamers, to mount the Eldo generator pulley on the crank of the Convert engine. (about 45$). You then can use the timing cover from the Eldo. First you have to do some grinding on the inside of the timing cover, so it will clear the timing chain. I cant see this weakening the cover very much at all. You can then bolt the Eldo timing cover directly onto the front of the Convert motor. (Of course you have to take off the Convert timing cover.)Now would be a good time to replace the seal. The motor bolts right in with no modifications. Then drill and tap the holes for the generator mount, just where it would go on the Eldo motor. The bosses are already there. The only problem with this was, you have an interference problem with the newer style distributor. Just get your grinder back out and grind off a good 1/2 inch or so, off the back of the generator. There is plenty of material back there, so again, no problem weakening it too much. Just use some common sense on where you remove that much metal, and turn the generator to clear the distributor. You might have to relocate the coil(s). I mounted my pair of coils in the toolbox, and drilled holes in the back of it, to run my wires, then sealed it all with silicone. Make sure you have good grounds. You can also mount the Eldo valve covers right on, and if you want, you can drill them for the vents. Good luck!
Scott
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re: Eldovert
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Hi Paul, didn't realize you were gonna run the alt....if it wasn't for the
pump I'd run the adapter and generator..
EldoMike
www.classicguzzi.com
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To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Eldovert
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<DIV>You can get an adapter from Teo Lamers, to mount the Eldo generator pulley on the crank of the Convert engine. (about 45$). You then can use the timing cover from the Eldo. First you have to do some grinding on the inside of the timing cover, so it will clear the timing chain. I cant see this weakening the cover very much at all. You can then bolt the Eldo timing cover directly onto the front of the Convert motor. (Of course you have to take off the Convert timing cover.)Now would be a good time to replace the seal. The motor bolts right in with no modifications. Then drill and tap the holes for the generator mount, just where it would go on the Eldo motor. The bosses are already there. The only problem with this was, you have an interference problem with the newer style distributor. Just get your grinder back out and grind off a good 1/2 inch or so, off the back of the generator. There is plenty of material back there, so again, no problem weakening it too much. Just use some common sense on where you remove that much metal, and turn the generator to clear the distributor. You might have to relocate the coil(s). I mounted my pair of coils in the toolbox, and drilled holes in the back of it, to run my wires, then sealed it all with silicone. Make sure you have good grounds. You can also mount the Eldo valve covers right on, and if you want, you can drill them for the vents. Good luck!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Scott<BR></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; FONT-COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> EldoMike</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 15, 2002 3:28 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> Loopfram-@topica.com</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Eldovert</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>============================================================<BR>Rent DVDs online – FREE Trial! With Netflix you can rent as<BR>many DVDs as you want for $20 a month. No late fees –<BR>World’s Largest Selection – Free Shipping! Click here for a<BR>FREE TRIAL!<BR>http://click.topica.com/caaaijxb1dfltb2OdnHa/Netflix<BR>============================================================<BR><BR>Hi Paul, didn't realize you were gonna run the alt....if it wasn't for the<BR>pump I'd run the adapter and generator..<BR><BR>EldoMike<BR>www.classicguzzi.com<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Paul Linn" <paul_-@yahoo.com><BR>To: <Loopfram-@topica.com><BR>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:20 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Eldovert<BR><BR><BR>> ============================================================<BR>> Rent DVDs online - FREE Trial! With Netflix you can rent as<BR>> many DVDs as you want for $20 a month. No late fees -<BR>> World's Largest Selection - Free Shipping! Click here for a<BR>> FREE TRIAL!<BR>> http://click.topica.com/caaaijBb1dfltb2pRbDa/Netflix<BR>> ============================================================<BR>><BR>> According to our wise West Coast Guzzi God, you can either dent in the<BR>> fender on the back slightly to accommodate the alternator or give it some<BR>> rake. He said something else about moving the rear fender stay up an inch<BR>or<BR>> so as I believe that was what actually interfered. Mark can correct me on<BR>> this if I am mistaken. This is the same plan I have for the T3 and Eldo<BR>> right now.<BR>><BR>> Paul<BR>> Richmond, Va<BR>> 73 Eldo project<BR>> 76 T3 basket case<BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Zerhackermann" <chopp-@hotmail.com><BR>> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com><BR>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:27 PM<BR>> Subject: RE: Eldovert<BR>><BR>><BR>> > ============================================================<BR>> > Rent DVDs online - FREE Trial! With Netflix you can rent as<BR>> > many DVDs as you want for $20 a month. No late fees -<BR>> > World's Largest Selection - Free Shipping! Click here for a<BR>> > FREE TRIAL!<BR>> > http://click.topica.com/caaaijxb1dfltb2GgTda/Netflix<BR>> > ============================================================<BR>> ><BR>> > I havent looked at it....but how much interference is there? A lot or a<BR>> > little? Only under fork compression or at stand still?<BR>> ><BR>> > Dpending on the answers above you could:<BR>> ><BR>> > Make an abbreviated alternator cover. There is probably a little room to<BR>> > be gotten there. But will that affect the cooling of the alternator?<BR>> ><BR>> > Snug the fender up to the tire or run a different/shortened fender.<BR>> > Again probably not a lot of gain there and more road grime on the bike<BR>> > if the latter is pursued.<BR>> ><BR>> > Move the motor back. More pain than is worth.<BR>> ><BR>> > Move the front end out. However you do that it will affect the handling.<BR>> > Just a couple degrees of rake could gain you a lot of room though.<BR>> ><BR>> > Remove the alternator. I understand that the bosses to mount the<BR>> > generator are still on the block casting. (I could be wrong) Seems that<BR>> > it is *possible* to mount an alternator there. Someone attempted it on<BR>> > my junkyard T-3, but they did a really bad job of it. Including cutting<BR>> > the rotor in half to stick a pulley on it *shudder*. 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