Subject: RE: more about Valeo Starter
Author: richp-@hotmail.com
Date: Sep 13, 2001, 4:01 PM
Post ID: 1708229913
Tom & Paul,
I'm installing a rebuilt starter on my '69 Ambo and I'm wondering if I
should install a relay as well. It seems like a good idea.
Are the specs and the cabling for the relay the same?
The previous owner made his own wiring harness, using the same color
wire for everything, hot pink, so I want to get the wiring done right.
Thanks
-Rich
Paul Linn wrote:
Tom, I got the auxiliary light relay, cost me a whole $3.99 rated at 30 Amp on the package, but 40 Amp on the relay itself. Terminal 85 is the one for the ground according to the diagram on the back and also in Guzziology. I ground off the vertical plate with my Dremel today and repainted the starter too. I see it is a really tight fit between the solenoid and the neutral switch bolt. Paul 69 Ambo -----Original Message----- From: Tom Bowes [mailto:kk-@home.com] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 10:44 PM To: Loopfram-@topica.com Subject: RE: more about Valeo Starter ============================================================ QUICK WEIGHT LOSS PLAN - LOSE 2-5 POUNDS A WEEK! Lose Weight Now! using real food, No pills or packaged meals Join today - start today! Free newsletter and bonus gifts http://click.topica.com/caaacEPb1dfltb2GgTda/Pianos ============================================================ Paul, Since the early Ambos used the key switch to directly control the current to the solenoid of the starter you will have to make a few changes. First you will need a relay. The solenoid of the Valeo starter has about 1 ohm of resistance, which means that it will draw about 12 amps when you energize the starter. In order to get a relay to last when used with an inductive load it must have a resistive load rating of at least twice the required current. This means that for your application you must have a relay rated 25 amps or more unless you want to buy them by the gross. Bosch makes several relays which would work. Their part numbers and descriptions are: 332 019 110 SPST 40A 12V with mounting bracket, 332 209 151 same rating no bracket, 332 209 150 SPDT 40A 12V w/brkt, 332 019 151 SPDT 40A 12V no brkt, 332 209 137 SPDT 50A(!) 12V no brkt. If you can't find a genuine Bosch relay just ask for an auxilliary headlight (driving light) relay. You will also want to pick up some female 1/4" quick disconnect terminals, unless you get lucky and the auto parts store has a prewired harness for the relay. Reroute the wire going to the solenoid to the new relay and connect it to terminal 85 on the relay. Connect terminal 86 via a piece of 16 or 18 (larger is OK)gauge wire from the relay to a good ground point on the bike (Buy a 5/16 or 3/8 ring lug to get the wire landed under a bolt or nut). Get an inline fuse holder and wire a 25 amp fuse (using 12 or 14 gauge wire) between the positive terminal of the battery (connect this LAST!!!) and terminal 30 of the relay. Connect a piece of wire from terminal 87 of the relay to the new starter solenoid (on the quick disconnect terminal). The hardest part of the job will probably be rounding up all the parts. Tom '70 (July '69) Ambassador 96% Complete, 27% Left To Go '82 V50-III Shelby Township, Michigan Paul Linn wrote:
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