Subject: RE: Please Help Me Solve This Problem

Keith,

Looks to me like your mechanic doesn't know the difference between a 5 speed
and a 4 speed cover. It is a pain to get the spring adjusted right. I found
that by installing the cam screw in the small cover and turning it all the
way in and positioning it at 11 o'clock when looking at the inside of the
small cover and then installing the spring on the shaft and making sure when
you put the 2 parts together that the springs arms are on the outside of
both pins on the shaft and the cam screw. I then back the screw off a little
( not too much) so it is not touching the shaft selector gear. Then the
transmission is put in 2nd gear and everything is fitted back together
carefully. Small minor adjustments are then made by turning the cam screw in
VERY small increments either way till shifting is as perfect as it can be.

Paul
69 Ambo

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Ruff [mailto:klru-@webspan.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:30 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Please Help Me Solve This Problem

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Now I'm really confused. I had heard that the Eldo's didn't have access
to the return spring. The Guzzi mechanic told me he installed an Eldo
rear case and throwout bearing, but how can that be if the case still
has the rear access plate? I'm not sure what I've got now, except that
it is a 4-speed! Something doesn't sound right, perhaps the guy
replaced some of the parts but not of the kit parts? Think he did order
it from Moto Int'l though, think he uses them for lots of parts. Will
have to get in touch with him I guess.

Any other ideas?

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ

Paul Linn wrote:

Keith,

The updated cover is the same as the original, except it uses the 22mm
throw
out bearing. I got mine from Moto International, they came as a kit
(cover,
throw out bearing, inner body and outer body). I believe they are now
selling them on an exchange basis as I managed to buy the last 2
originals a
month ago. I looked in the book and the 4 and 5 speed covers are
different.
The 5 speed shift return spring goes inside the tranny where as the 4
speed
has a housing in the rear cover for it.

Paul
69 Ambo

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Ruff [mailto:klru-@webspan.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:14 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: RE: Please Help Me Solve This Problem

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It is a 4 speed (Ambo). What is an updated cover? What does it do?

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ

Paul Linn wrote:

Keith,

What tranny do you have? A 4 or 5 speed? You can get a new updated cover
for
the 4 speeds if that is what you have. I think that might be your
problem.

Paul
69 Ambo

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Ruff [mailto:klru-@webspan.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:22 PM
To: Loopfram-@topica.com
Subject: Please Help Me Solve This Problem

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Hello All,

Mr. "Patience" here. Update on the shifter return spring and definitely
some help/ideas needed. My mechanic ground down the triple wound return
spring per my direction - didn't want to use the std 2 wound and risk
busting the spring again soon. Anyways, he was able to gring it down
and make it fit (thanks Kev Graf for the info to grind it down, think it
was you who told me to do this?). Here is the strange mystery: He
installed the spring per directions from this board - put the tranny in
2nd gear and install the spring. He was able to do this and it shifted
through all of the gears. BUT.......every time he re-installs the rear
plate, when he tightens the bolts, the spring pops out of place, every
time. Why would this be? What is causing the spring to pop out of
place when installing the rear cover? He says it works perfect without
the cover on, but pops every time the cover is installed. Can't figure
it out. Can it have something to do with the fact that the Guzzi
mechanic replaced the rear casing on the tranny with an Eldorado style
case with new style throwout bearing? Or is there something simple we
are missing that is causing the spring to pop out when installing that
rear cover?

Appreciate any help I can get, want to finally ride this beast - it's
been just over a year since I purchased her. Mechanic says she is
running perfect, carbs all synched and mixtures all set, timing was way
off (part cause of the slow crank problem), valves adjusted (everything
else looked good on the heads), oil leak is fixed - turned out the Guzzi
mechanic installed a std bolt rather than a drain plug bolt where the
gear lube drain hole is where the engine/trans cases meet! Unbelievable
how he messed this up, other than rebuilding the trans and getting it to
actually work (before this return spring issue), generator is all fixed
and the regulator all cleaned up - she's charging great! I have already
installed a new coil and rebuilt Marelli starter. Oh, and if some of
you remember that blinker/4-way flasher problem I had way back, he
solved that too, just needed a new flasher unit and it was fixed.

So, she's itching, and I am dieing, to get on the road, just need to
solve this return spring dilemma. Please help!! In the meantime, my
mechanic is trying to talk me into buying into his auto business and
expanding it into a high performance auto shop and moto guzzi
sales/repair shop, been thinking about it. Ain't nobody in my area that
knows these bikes, there is a definite need here.

Thanx!

Keith Ruff
71 Police Amabassador - NJ

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Subject: RE: Please Help Me Solve This Problem

Author: Paul Linn

Date: Jul 19, 2001, 8:40 PM

Post ID: 1707572575

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