Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 148
Author: Layton Rosencrance
Date: Oct 27, 2000, 6:22 PM
Post ID: 1703591661
The other area to check is the Generator bracket. The bolts tend to break
with all the vibration. Could be that.
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| -- Topica Digest -- RE: weird noise By jane-@gte.net Re: weird noise By rider-@mindspring.com Re: weird noise By mjco-@globalnet.co.uk RE: Cuban police Guzzi photos By tsh-@devry-phx.edu Anyone have a source for specialized tools? By rzi-@co.alameda.ca.us Re: Anyone have a source for specialized tools? By crum-@msn.com Re: Anyone have a source for specialized tools? By tf-@gte.net Re: weird noise By Guzzi-@aol.com Re: weird noise By gun-@lynnet.com Re: weird noise By gun-@lynnet.com Re: weird noise By gun-@lynnet.com Re: weird noise By peha-@aol.com Re: weird noise By gun-@lynnet.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:55:13 -0400 From: janemac <jane-@gte.net> Subject: RE: weird noise My father had a 74 Eldo that had a similar noise. After checking the top end we removed the timing cover and discovered it was the timing chain. The tensioner had gone bad and the chain was slapping around at low rpms. Jane & Karl Kologiski Bird at the Wheel - Motorcycle Arts- St. Petersburg, Florida Visit our web site at http://home1.gte.net/janemac/bird.html -----Original Message----- From: andrew hill [SMTP:gun-@lynnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:04 PM To: loopframe Subject: weird noise hey ya'll- anyone xperienced this? bike [ambo] runs fine, but there is a light mettallic tapping sound that comesngoes on an irregular basis- sounds like topend, but nothing appears loose, or out of the ordinary.?????? tia, andy h. ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want.http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 06:49:00 -0700 From: Dave Morgan <rider-@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: weird noise It's common problem on the Eldorado is the tensioner going bad. What's |
| is that it can shred into little pieces and get into the oiling system. It's not a problem on the Ambassadors since they have timing gears and not chains. Sometimes the generator belt cover can be the problem. If it is not |
| properly or if the belt is getting too loose, it can periodically make contact. Pull the belt cover off and look on the inside of it for black powder. This would indicated that the belt is rubbing. Cheers, Dave Karl Kologiski wrote:
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-- Dave Morgan Eugene, Oregon USA http://rider2000.home.mindspring.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:21:16 +0100 From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: weird noise I thought you said top end! cookie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Morgan" <rider-@mindspring.com> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: Re: weird noise
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I just got one of those nifty solo saddles that they're using. Nice and comfy! Tom Short AZ rep 2.5 Eldos & a G-5 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:37:15 -0700 From: "Zink, Rich, ITD" <rzi-@co.alameda.ca.us> Subject: Anyone have a source for specialized tools? My Ambassador arrived to me without a tool kit. No big deal as I had a bunch of cheap (but functional) tools laying around that I packed up for roadside emergencies. My problem is that I need a lock ring spanner for |
| exhaust nuts, steering head, etc. I have been unable to find what I am looking for by doing searches on the net. Looks like as close to what I am looking for is found in bicycle shops to be used on bottom brackets. I am looking for a somewhat heavier duty one than that. I borrowed one from my neighbor before I was about to take a hammer and punch to the exhaust |
| but want to purchase one of my own. I don't remember ever seeing one for sale in tool sections of local hardware or tool type stores. Any suggestions? Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:29:20 -0700 From: "crumpta" <crum-@email.msn.com> Subject: Re: Anyone have a source for specialized tools? The best tool for those big lockrings is a fire hose spanner. If you can't find a supply near you, try: www.galls.com They sell Police and Firefighting stuff. For about ten bucks you can get a folding one. Tim Crump MGNOC #262 AMA #668944 FSSNOC #3057 98 Centauro 69 Ambassador 78 T3 98 KTM Rallye Adventure http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/YosemiteDr/guzzitim/GUZZITIM.html "Remember...traffic lights set for 35 are also set for 70!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Zink" <rzi-@co.alameda.ca.us> To: "Guzzi List" <MotoG-@topica.com>; "Looped Group" <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: Anyone have a source for specialized tools?
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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:01:49 -0500 From: "Tim" <tf-@gte.net> Subject: Re: Anyone have a source for specialized tools? Rich... I recently went through the same ordeal. You can use an adjustable |
| wrench sold by Proto tools available at some auto parts stores. You can check with Harbour Freight, Northern Tools, plumbing shop, etc for an adjustable spanner wrench or C- spanner. I bought mine at harbout freight for less than 15.00 and it worked fine. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:19:43 EDT From: GUZZI-@aol.com Subject: Re: weird noise All 200,300 ambos I have owned or worked on have had wierd and different noises,Just drive it and enjoy till it knocks or smokes,Mark Moto Guzzi Classics ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:27:06 -0400 From: "andy hill" <gun-@lynnet.com> Subject: Re: weird noise cookie- nonono! i am very familiar w/ the tappet sound. this is irregular,-comes and goes. very light-sounding. odd, whatever it is. thanks anyhoo! andy h. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@globalnet.co.uk> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 05:06 PM Subject: Re: weird noise Sounds like tappets. They all do that sir! cookie ----- Original Message ----- From: "andrew hill" <gun-@lynnet.com> To: "loopframe" <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: weird noise
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___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want.http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:34:21 -0400 From: "andy hill" <gun-@lynnet.com> Subject: Re: weird noise karl- that is great advice, and probably describes the type of sound i'm |
| but i have gears [it's a '72]. darn thing runs great- just did a hundred miles today, no problems. [???] thanks, andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Kologiski" <jane-@gte.net> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 08:57 AM Subject: RE: weird noise My father had a 74 Eldo that had a similar noise. After checking the top end we removed the timing cover and discovered it was the timing chain. The tensioner had gone bad and the chain was slapping around at low rpms. Jane & Karl Kologiski Bird at the Wheel - Motorcycle Arts- St. Petersburg, Florida Visit our web site at http://home1.gte.net/janemac/bird.html -----Original Message----- From: andrew hill [SMTP:gun-@lynnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:04 PM To: loopframe Subject: weird noise hey ya'll- anyone xperienced this? bike [ambo] runs fine, but there is a light mettallic tapping sound that comesngoes on an irregular basis- sounds like topend, but nothing appears loose, or out of the ordinary.?????? tia, andy h. ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want.http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want.http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:40:52 -0400 From: "andy hill" <gun-@lynnet.com> Subject: Re: weird noise thanks dave! the engine is an ambo, as is the trans. i'll yank off the belt cover at sunup, and check it out! gotta do a big ride fri., 'cause they're sayin rain & cold for the weekend, and i wanna roll over the 50,000 mark before winter. thanks much, andy h. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Morgan" <rider-@mindspring.com> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 09:47 AM Subject: Re: weird noise It's common problem on the Eldorado is the tensioner going bad. What's worse is that it can shred into little pieces and get into the oiling system. It's not a problem on the Ambassadors since they have timing gears and not chains. Sometimes the generator belt cover can be the problem. If it is not installed properly or if the belt is getting too loose, it can periodically make contact. Pull the belt cover off and look on the inside of it for black powder. This would indicated that the belt is rubbing. Cheers, Dave Karl Kologiski wrote:
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-- Dave Morgan Eugene, Oregon USA http://rider2000.home.mindspring.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ FRUGAL FUN TIPS: A Frugal Fun idea in your e-box each month! Join:http://www.topica.com/lists/FrugalFunTips/ Archives 1997-99:http://www.frugalfun.com ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want.http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 00:20:42 EDT From: PEHA-@aol.com Subject: Re: weird noise How about a cracked generator cover housing? Mine did that on a cross country trip and made horrible noises at specific rpms. Harmonic mulitplication. I thought it was curtains for the motor. Eventually I figured it out, used pliers to yank out bits of it on the |
| of the road and silent for the remainder of the trip. Patrick Hayes Fremont CA EV, EV, SPII, V-65-C, Monza, SuperAlce MGNOC L-403 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 01:09:57 -0400 From: "andy hill" <gun-@lynnet.com> Subject: Re: weird noise hey pat- thanks! i don't have a cover on the generator, tho. gonna check the belt, and the front pully on the gennie. kinda goes: tickaticka...taptaptap...ticka...repeat. [?] andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Hayes" <peha-@aol.com> To: <Loopfram-@topica.com> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:21 AM Subject: Re: weird noise How about a cracked generator cover housing? Mine did that on a cross country trip and made horrible noises at specific rpms. Harmonic mulitplication. I thought it was curtains for the motor. Eventually I figured it out, used pliers to yank out bits of it on the |
| of the road and silent for the remainder of the trip. Patrick Hayes Fremont CA EV, EV, SPII, V-65-C, Monza, SuperAlce MGNOC L-403 ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want.http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics ------------------------------ End of Loopfram-@topica.com digest, issue 148 |