Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 46

Hello to all. My name is Layton Rosencrance. I live in Portland Oregon. I
started riding again 5 years ago after a 20 year hiatus for children,
career, etc. Started with a Yamaha 759 and went through two old BMWs. Then I
too decided to find something different. My first Guzzi was a Lemans IV. A
great machine but not 'someone my age' should know better. Or at least that
is what the State Trooper told me.

I switched to a more normal ride a California 1100i. Last summer I bought a
74 Police model Eldo from the classifieds. It turned out to be much more of
a project than I imagined. I have had a great time rebuilding it with a
friend of mine. Complete engine overhaul, almost everything else new and
finally two weeks ago, new white paint. It is quite a machine.

I vote for the logo " Life is better looped" This looks like it will be fun.
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Subject: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 46

-- Topica Digest --

Re: Restoration - piston/cylinder sets
By rpma-@itis.com

Re: better pic [no ugly dude]
By rwor-@goodnet.com

returns
By mjco-@globalnet.co.uk

Handgrips
By mjco-@globalnet.co.uk

Re: welcome and logo/saying
By rzink-@aol.com

Re: welcome and logo/saying
By peha-@aol.com

Introduction
By marc-@pwrtc.com

Introduction
By plba-@pacbell.net

introduction
By jber-@hotmail.com

Re: Handgrips
By Guzzi-@aol.com

introduction
By raw-@prodigy.net

Re: introduction
By adk-@gte.net

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 13:18:50 -0700
From: "CHEESEHEAD" <rpma-@itis.com>
Subject: Re: Restoration - piston/cylinder sets

, and secondly is it possible to get the black/white handgrips
anywhere?

Thanks,
Tim
FWIW, new repop black and white handgrips are supposed to be available

again

in the fall.

Also, note to Dave O and anyone else that might be interested. Bad news on
new Gilardoni piston/cylinder sets for Eldos and Ambs. They will not be
available again until sometime after the August Italian "Holiday".

Regards,

CHEESEHEAD

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 11:38:49 -0700
From: "Nolan Woodbury" <rwor-@goodnet.com>
Subject: Re: better pic [no ugly dude]

Hello Andy, all;

i'm in upstate ny, in the finger lakes, and have been hoping

valiently

to
make the nats. my bike has been parked since april,'84. i bought it last
august, courtesy of the mgnoc classifieds, and after a long winter [no
heat
in the shop], well, this is how she turned out. [actually, i had'nt

added

the turn sigs., flh windshield, or decals at that point]-since done.you
have
made my year, man! thanks!!

My pleasure Andy. What did I do again? :-)

I'm hoping this brief journey to Virginia will net a few of the east coast
rides I've missed at past rallies. I understand its difficult to get away,
but FWIW I'll have a full assortment of camera gear and (hopefully) I'll
get some nice Guzzi portraits done, so look me up. The idea is to get as
many nice machines shot as possible which should be a do-able plan, since
my only commitment this year is simply attending.

I'm missing a few (stock) models in my portfolio; the V700 and '76 Le Mans
850 to name two. Here's hoping I catch them in Virginia. Of course, its
alwasy a treat to shoot a tasty modified machine...your bike fits that

bill

perfectly Andy. Hope to see you there.

Nolan

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 20:00:33 +0100
From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@globalnet.co.uk>
Subject: returns

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I'm sending out copies of the wiring diagrams people are asking for, but =
some are getting bounced back due to attachment being nearly 1MB.=20

I've now lost track of who asked for what so if you asked for a copy, =
but haven't got it, let me know how big your attachment limit is & I'll =
send drawings separately.

Also please say if you want loopframe or Tonti frame diags. That will =
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Sorry,=20

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 20:03:33 +0100
From: "Martin Cooke" <mjco-@globalnet.co.uk>
Subject: Handgrips

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I've been waiting to get my hands on (pun intended) a pair of original =
black/white handgrips since 1994. They're always going to appear soon.

Still waiting!

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 17:17:33 EDT
From: RZink-@aol.com
Subject: Re: welcome and logo/saying

OK, I will reintroduce myself. My name is Rich and my wife, my five year

old

daughter and myself reside in Brisbane, Ca. I have introduced myself and

gone

back into hiding (lurk mode) before. Well, it looks like I am closing the
deal on a '70 civilian Ambassador (in the original white color), ,46K, all
stock with the exception of a Windjammer fairing and Wixom bags. My
suggestion for logo/saying would be
LOOPFRAME ENTHUSIASTS over a 50% screened Moto Guzzi logo
with 'Life is just better when LOOPED' on the back
or 'We always ride LOOPED'
or 'Get LOOPED today'
I like the 'Ask me about my loopframe' as someone suggested also.
PICS and frame numbers coming soon.
Rich

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 17:39:36 EDT
From: PEHA-@aol.com
Subject: Re: welcome and logo/saying

In a message dated 07/15/2000 2:18:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rzink-@aol.com writes:

reside in Brisbane, Ca.

Well, you're not too far away. Had an Eldo for 20 years but now have

newer

and older things to work on. Stay in touch if you need help.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
EV, EV, SPII, V-65-C, Monza, SuperAlce
MGNOC L-403

Patrick Hayes
1040 Poda Court
Fremont CA 94539-5742
510-651-6463 home
510-790-6732 work
510-668-0824 fax

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 18:15:30 -0500
From: "Rich Marchand" <marc-@pwrtc.com>
Subject: Introduction

Hi all you loopframe nuts.My name is Rich Marchand.My wife and I and
our 2 Labs reside in Monticello Indiana.This is my first and only
Guzzi (so far) a74 Eldorado.I bought it in 90 as a non running bike
with many problems,as I was to find out.At that time I had only heard
of Guzzi and never seen one before, but I was ready to try something
different. The bike has not had a full restoration,but has been pretty
well gone through mechanically.Recent improvements include..good paint
job,new tires,solo seat,new cylinders(chrome peeling on old ones),
valve job,new lifters ,new Dellotro carbs(had Amals) windshield from
Harper's and spotlights. This thing ROCKS !!! I am truly obsessed with
it.
I am new to this list,a couple of weeks,but have been on the MGCL for
a couple of years.Both lists have been a great source of info,and its
nice to know there other people that enjoy the loopframe styling,feel
and the symphony the engine makes.
The date of manufacture is September,1973,titled as a 74,serial
number 060921.I don't have a recent pic,but I could send an older
one.I'm looking forward to hearing more from this list and enjoy the
Loopframe site.
Keep on riding
Rich Marchand
74 Eldo
MGNOC17418

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 17:02:21 -0700
From: Paul Bacon <plba-@pacbell.net>
Subject: Introduction

I think asking for people to introduce themselves was a great idea- so is
this list.
My name is Paul Bacon and I live in Grass Valley, Calif. I bought my first
MG, a 1980 1000SP, new in 1982 and soon after joined the MGNOC. I put
nearly 70,000mi on the SP and had a wail of a good time, it suited my
riding style perfectly. Personal reasons forced me to sell the bike a few
years ago and I immediately started to have withdrawals. In April of 1999

finally was able to buy another Moto Guzzi, this time a 1973 Eldorado
(civilian). I found the bike on the MGNOC classified web site, flew to
Idaho to take delivery and rode it back to Grass Valley- a few inches of
snow on the ground, no windshield and nothing but smiles all the way home!
The loopframe Guzzi is truly a unique motorcycle. Since I acquired the

bike

I have rebuilt the carbs, installed Mac mufflers and windscreen (Mark's
Cycle) and had a custom seat made (in Sacramento).
The saying "when it rains, it pours" seams to fit- not long after I picked
up my Eldo a friend of mine called and asked if I could help her find a
good home for her late husbands 3 Eldorado motorcycles- no problem I say!

bought 2 of them and another friend bought the 3rd, a '74 police style. Of
the 2 that I bought I will keep one and finish restoring and the other
which is pretty rough but certainly restorable I would like to sell.
Well that's my story. Keep your wheels spinning and hope to see you at the
National Rally next year right here in Grass Valley!

Paul Bacon
1973 Eldo
MGNOC mem # 7222

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 18:15:25 PDT
From: "James Berry" <jber-@hotmail.com>
Subject: introduction

Great idea these introductions....
My name is Chris Berry and I live in Lenoir, NC (gateway to the blue

ridge).

I rode dirt bikes as a kid, but never owned a street bike. In 1998, an
old friend I hadn't seen in a while commented that he really liked the '84
VW Rabit convertible I had...in fact he'd trade one of his bikes for
it...maybe even his Guzzi. Needless to say, Iwent and took a ride on his
'74 civ. Eldo....I was hooked from the start. He drove away in the

rabbit,

I got the bike...even trade!!! ($I had 2k in the rabbit) Awesome bike.
Mostly original, but has floorboards, 949cc kit,BUB'S, and Dellorto VHB
30's. The only problem is the jap wiring spliced in from a fairing it

once

had. Did I say that it is an awesome bike? I'v enjoyed the hell out of

learning the mechanics of Guzzi's and learning to ride again. Doubt I'll
ever make it to nationals, but I might pop up at a rally around the Blue
Ridge. Did I mention how killer this bike is?
Y'all have a good 'un
Chris in NC
'74 Eldo civ.

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 21:17:39 EDT
From: GUZZI-@aol.com
Subject: Re: Handgrips

I have sold 4 sets of the grips on ebay in the past 6 months,have a few

sets

left,these are good used.I have been hearing for 10 years they are going

be available again,bet 10 years from now we will still be

waiting.Mark.Moto

Guzzi Classics.562 986 0070

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 21:51:17 -0500
From: DannyR <raw-@prodigy.net>
Subject: introduction

Hi Y'all,

I bought a 1966 Yamaha Twin Jet 100, in 1967, and sold it a year later.

Bought

a brand new 1970 Honda 450 Scrambler, sold it one month later for more

than I

paid. It vibrated too much. Then a guy moved into in down the street with

1971 Ambassador, pulling his full time residence, a 14' Puch self

contained

trailer. He wanted a new 850 Eldorado so he could have a side car to help
stabilize the bike when pulling the trailer. I bought his Ambassador for
$1400
since I could not afford a new 850 Eldorado, which was $2100 at the time.
Rissman Motors, Albuquerque NM was our dealer and I have photographs of

Dave

Miller, the previous owner, riding my bike, pulling his trailer. He

eventually

sold the Eldorado to a guy who wrecked it and killed himself on it.

In 1976 I blew a head gasket and pulled the heads, but let the bike sit

until

1984, when I rebuilt the engine. I rode it until 1992 when the

intermediate

plate warped and I could not get it out of gear. I pulled the clutch out

and

decided to overhaul the transmission, since it was whining, and decided to

put

in a five speed and Eldorado rear drive. In 1992 I bought a very rough

1972

Eldorado and found the transmission was no good and I let both bikes sit.

In January 1998 I felt the need to have a running bike, so I found a 1977

850

T-3. I hated the T-bikes when they came out in 1975, but somehow they have
grown on me. And besides, I still have my black Ambassador to look at in

the

garage, so it was not so bad.

The I really wanted to get a bike that ran. So I bought a 1998 EV in March
1999. Why couldn't they make a black EV with white stripes? I had to

settle

for gray and black. At least you can get a Jackal in Black and have the
stripes
painted on.

I got a used four speed from a friend, (two years ago), and put the

clutch,

intermediate plate and transmission back into the Ambassador. But the

clutch

cable is too short and it won't release completely. The same clutch cable,
battery tray and so on are back on the bike, the only thing that is

different

is the transmission. To even get the clutch cable to fit I have to unbolt

the

battery tray and use a vice grip to hold the cable end, and then I can get

into the slot. When I bolt the battery tray down, there is no free play. I

can

pull the clutch cable and turn the rear wheel and I can feel when the

clutch

releases and grabs, but there is just no free play.

I got frustrated with it and it is still in the garage where it has been
parked
against the wall, so I can get the other bikes into the garage.

DannyR

1971 Ambassador
1972 Eldorado, rough
1977 850 T-3, nice
1998 EV, Very nice, comfortable, fast and Italian

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 23:51:13 -0400
From: "Ian Adkins" <adk-@gte.net>
Subject: Re: introduction

Hi Chris,

Welcome to the list.

I am currently documenting all the Loopframes currently in existence

today.

Eventually I hope to have a list compiled and posted on the website for

all

to see.

If you would like your bike on this list please send me your bike's serial
number, your name and the location to me at : adk-@gte.net

Of course this is a non commercial request and is totally up to you. The
list will eventually be posted to the web site.

I invite all Loopframers to submit their bike's serial numbers.

Thanks much.....Ian Adkins

Great idea these introductions....
My name is Chris Berry and I live in Lenoir, NC (gateway to the blue
ridge).

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Subject: Re: Digest for Loopfram-@topica.com, issue 46

Author: Layton Rosencrance

Date: Jul 16, 2000, 10:22 PM

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