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Subject: Re: Eldo decals/paint ?

Author: mike skaggs

Date: Jul 3, 2000, 2:40 PM

Post ID: 1701237355

Hey Cheese...you too busy ridin' or workin...:-)

Mike
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From: R.P. Mahnke <rpma-@itis.com>
To: <Loopfram-@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Eldo decals/paint ?


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 Hi Ken,

I ordered my decals (white) for my Ambo#2 from Eish and I believe that
they
 were original transfers...I could be wrong though. I also ordered a set
(gold) for my #1 Ambo from Harper's and they look original but I'm not
sure
 if those ones were original. They look good on the bike though. One
thing.....the originals (from Eish) were a pain to work with...at least
that
 is what my painter said.

Both sets look good once clear coated over.

While we are on the topic. The transfers that I got from Eish were white
(as
 I already said) but there was a little blue in the decal. I'm not sure
if
 
 that was original or not...I don't really care because it looks so cool
but
 I was wondering if someone might tell me whether that was original or
not?
 
 
One other thing...I believe that there are two types of
transfers....those
 
 that are clearcoated over and those that stick on after you have
finished
 
 the painting. The latter ones are thicker.

Ian

Gold-Not original

White with the blue shading/drop shadow-Original, supposedly NLA if in
fact
 decals. V700s and early ambassadors had decals. Same as Stornello but
larger. Later bikes were silk screened.

Might be wrong, but the way I always refer to transfers/decals/stickers
are
 that transfers use 2 sheets of paper or whatever you want to call it. You
peel off the backing, apply it where you want it, rub the front paper, and
then peel it off leaving the transfer.

Decals have only a backing sheet, and you use water to soak it off, and
place it and let it dry (like my old Revel plastic models), or in the case
of at least the older Guzzi decals, use a decal adhesive.
I know that Guzzi used an adhesive of some nature, *I think* it was used
on
 the V700s and early Ambassadors, as some of the Stornello decals that are
similar use it. Also the "Corsa" type decals we managed to get (used on
Guzzi factory race bikes in the 50's with the very art deco eagle and
lettering), use such and adhesive.

Stickers have the backing sheet, but are peeled off it and placed. The
white
 items I got from Domi Racer were on one sheet of square clear material,
and
 I cut around the eagle and letters so I didn't get a big block around the
whole thing. They were a pain in the ass to shoot, according to my
painter.
 They fish eyed badly. He thought it was due to the type of material
(vinyl??) or it's thickness. He had never seen anything like it happen
before.

FWIW, I am fairly close to having complete sets of all the original
transfers and decals, or in a couple cases the artwork and screens
already,
 for Stornellos, V700, Ambassador, and Eldorado. My thought is to be able
to
 go to a supplier to have an order kicked out with quantities of all of
them
 in the stock colors. Time is the big restraint at the moment in getting it
all done.

Regards,

CHEESEHEAD



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